CONTENTS
A. OBJECTS FOUND IN COAL
1. BRASS BELL
2. IRON POT
3. HAMMER IN ROCK
4. OTHER STUFF
B. LUCKY FIND RE PREFLOOD CIVILIZATION
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1. BRASS BELL
The Mystery of the Bell Found in Coal https://gordonhudson.blogspot.com/2010/07/mystery-of-bell-found-in-coal.html
... The bell was found in 1944 by a ten year old boy called Newton Anderson who dropped a lump of coal and found the bell inside. Mr Anderson kept the bell until 2007 when passed it to Genesis Park (a creationist web site run by Dave Woetzel). At this time he underwent polygraph tests to determine if he was telling the truth about the discovery of the bell and the result of this was that “no deception was detected”.
... Newton Anderson himself spent some time investigating the bell and found similar bells bearing the figure of the Hindu deity Garuda. These bells are used in certain Hindu ceremonies including marriages. Here is a photograph of a Garuda bell.
... Whats interesting about the bell found in coal is that rather than be a smooth complete casting, the figure on the top has a large number of filing marks clearly visible on it. ... It is more likely to have been made by obtaining a Garuda bell and removing material from it with a file.
... The claim is that a nuclear activation analysis was undertaken which revealed that the bell contained copper, zinc, tin, arsenic, iodine, and selenium. ... Copper and zinc are the main components of brass.... and tin is sometimes added to brass to make it harder wearing.... Arsenic and Antimony are routinely added in tiny quantities to reduce corrosion, especially in brass used in ships. ... A lot of casting work relies on melting down scrap brass. ... It is more likely that the brass started life as worn bearings and ship's fittings from a breakers yard, and that it was manufactured by an artisan in India or elsewhere in Asia in the hundred years preceding its discovery.
... All we have is the testimony of one person who says he found the bell when he was ten years old (over 60 years before he took the polygraph test). Polygraph tests are unreliable because they only tell us if someone thinks they are lying and there is no doubt that Mr Anderson believes he is telling the truth. ... {A likely} possibility is that the bell appeared to be in coal, but was actually in a concretion of coal slurry and coal lumps hardened over time, so that it appeared to be inside a contiguous lump of coal {as expounded in the next article below}.
2. IRON POT
Alleged Iron Pot in Coal http://paleo.cc/paluxy/ironpot.htm
... "The following text is a letter from Frank Kennard, the man who found an iron pot embedded in a large lump of coal."
Sulphur Springs, Arkansas - Nov. 27, 1948 - While I was working in the Municipal Electric Plant in Thomas, Okla in 1912, I came upon a solid chunk of coal which was too large to use. I broke it with a sledge hammer. This iron pot fell from the center, leaving the impression, or mould of the pot in a piece of the coal. Jim Stull (an employee of the company) witnessed the breaking of the coal, and saw the pot fall out. I traced the source of the coal, and found that it came from the Wilburton, Oklahoma Mines.
- signed: Frank J. Kennard - Sworn to before me, in Sulphru [sic] Springs, Arkansas, this 27th day of November, 1948. Jullia L. Eldred N.P. My commission expires May 21, 1951 - Benton Co.
... As to the aspect of the account which could invalidate it, even if the workers were not intentionally lying, let us consider the following. In a mining environment, it is common to find puddles saturated with particles of whatever material was being mined. If a man-made object falls into such a sediment-laden slurry, the sediment will often consolidate around it. Over a period of years this sediment can dry and harden considerably, forming a concretion like structure resembling a piece of the original formation.
As noted by Mark Isaac: "The cup appears to be cast iron, and cast iron technology began in the eighteenth century. Its design is much like pots used to hold molten metals and may have been used by a tinsmith, tinker, or person casting bullets... The cup was likely dropped by a worker either inside a coal mine or in a mine's surface workings. Mineralization is common in the coal and surrounding debris of coal mines because rainwater reacts with the newly exposed minerals and produces highly mineralized solutions. Coal, sediments, and rocks are commonly cemented together in just a few years. It could easily appear that a pot cemented in such a concretion could appear superficially as if it were encased in the original coal. Or small pieces of coal, including powder, could have been recompressed around the cup by weight (Isaac, 2005).
... The same goes for similar alleged anomalies, such as Baugh's "London Artifact" (an iron hammer in a supposedly "Cretaceous" rock nodule). However, without careful forensic work of this nature, and lacking reliable in-situ documentation, such objects remain curiosities at best, and not reliable out-of-place artifacts.
3. HAMMER IN ROCK
The London Hammer: An Alleged Out of Place Artifact http://paleo.cc/paluxy/hammer.htm
Mr. and Mrs. Max Hahn were hiking along the Red Creek near the small town of London, Texas, in June 1936 (or 1934, according to others), when they happened upon a small rock nodule with a piece of wood protruding from it. According to Helfinstine and Roth (1994), Max Hahn's son George broke open the rock nodule in 1946 or 1947, revealing the rest of the hammer, including a metal hammer head. It is important to note that even some creationist accounts (Baugh 1997, Mackay, 1985) acknowledge that the hammer bearing nodule was not attached to the surrounding rocks of the creek. Mackay (1985) explicitly states "The rock was sitting loose on a ledge and was not part of the surrounding ledge." Likewise, creationist David Lines notes that the rock containing the hammer was found "sitting loose on a rock ledge beside a waterfall outside London, Texas."(Lines, 1996).
... The lack of sharp marks on the nodule seems to confirm the reports that it was found loose and not chiseled from a larger rock.
... In the late 1990's Baugh supporter David Lines reported on a web site ... that carbon 14 dating had "recently" been done on a specimen from the inside of the handle, and that the results "showed inconclusive dates ranging from the present to 700 years ago."
... If the nodule contained or was composed of ancient material, the hammer itself could still be of recent origin, since it could have been left in a place where a solution of ancient sediment collected and hardened around it. Such limy concretions can sometimes form in decades or less, and have been found around modern objects such as World War II artifacts.... It's even possible that the nodule might contain a mixture of ancient and modern sediments or organic remains, as might occur in muddy muddles and pits in a mining operation. ... The early American style of the hammer, and the largely undistorted and poorly mineralized condition of the handle, further suggests a relatively recent date.
4. OTHER STUFF
Objects in Coal https://www.ecosia.org/images?q=objects%20in%20coal
Coal Deposit Artifacts http://oneangrysheep.weebly.com/coal-deposit-artifacts.html
bell-shaped vase http://oneangrysheep.weebly.com/uploads/9/2/9/9/9299845/7108355.jpg?262
chunk of beaten iron http://oneangrysheep.weebly.com/uploads/9/2/9/9/9299845/2710279_orig.jpeg
B. LUCKY FIND RE PREFLOOD CIVILIZATION
I chanced on the bell in coal article above today and it indicates that there may be no actual artifacts in coal that were emplaced during coal formation during the Great Flood. I had lately surmised that Saturn-commemorating civilization didn't begin until shortly after the Younger Dryas Floods & Cataclysms, because the Saturn Triunes and the Golden Age didn't end until the YD event. Egyptian and Sumerian civilizations had many structures and artifacts with images and writings about the Saturn Triunes that indicate commemoration of the Triumes and desires for their return. I date the Great Flood to c. 3300 BC and the YD events to c. 2600 BC. So Egypt and Sumer would have begun after 2600 BC. Then I thought about the out-of-place artifacts that have been apparently found in coal and rock that suggested that civilization started before the Great Flood when coal formed. Civilization at that time is still possible, but Saturn-commemorating civilization would not have started before the end of the Golden Age at c. the YD. The brass bell discussed above had the figure of a god on it, so that would mean it was made after the Golden Age. So before I came across the article above, I thought I was going to have to look into the info on that bell artifact to see if the Golden Age might have occurred before the Great Flood. Finding that article answered my question right off the bat. So, now, it seems unlikely that there is any evidence of Saturn-commemorating civilization before or long before the YD events. There may have been other civilization before the YD events, but likely not Saturn-commemorating civilization. Here's a reminder of my current timeline.
GREAT FLOOD 3300BC — 700 YR. SATURN GOLDEN AGE & ICE AGE - YD.EVENT 2600 BC — 300 YR. FIRST SATURNOPHILE CIVILIZATION - SAHARA.TSUNAMIS 2300 BC — LATE SATURNOPHILE CIVILIZATION
It was sarcasm. They found Krishna's city and it's huge. But if Dwarka (myth) isn't really a myth at all then perhaps neither is the Mahabharata a myth, rather history. Imagine what would happen. Hard to imagine it being allowed to happen innit.
(there's no such thing as Dwarka)