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Creationism, Myth & Catastrophism
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Post by Admin on Jul 11, 2020 at 9:18pm
Creationism, Myth and Catastrophism SECOND THREAD LINK
www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13
Creationism, Myths & Catastrophism FIRST THREAD SUMMARY (Second Thread Summary in Next Post)
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(I show below the thread page numbers followed by a line of the initials of the posters, followed by lines that start with the initials of posters and then mention their important points, and the last line for each page shows the date of the last post on the page.)
<Nov 27, 2019 10:54 am
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LK LK LK M LK JP M JP BB JP BB BB BB JP LK
JP_Gen 15:12 & 37:9 [sun plausibly =] "Saturn" [moon =] "Crescent"
*LK_Mike Fischer's rapid continental drift
*LK_Baumgardner's Noah's Flood
LK_plan to compare catastrophist models.
LK_strata.
*LK_Floods to strata.
*JP_Berthault on Stratification
JP_Tas Walker's typical Biblical Geological Model
JP_JP' model: Baumgartner on tidal-waves, but caused by Earth orbiting Saturn, & linear Saturn system at mid-point of the flood (Gen 8:2-4) until ~700 BCE
LK_"Great Deep" = sky
--<BB_= ocean>
JP_bible resources
LK_"Torah Historicity"
LK_shamash links
JP_Cre'sa "very good" Gen 1:31 & no death at Gen 3:19 = no cataclysmic events before Genesis 7
BB_void = preliminary condition for creation
JP_6200 years since creation, but pre-Flood day and year length unknown
JP_All welcome to comment on hyperlinks
LK_maybe Earth = apparition in the sky & "deep" = sky & "face" = Saturn configuration
<Nov 30, 2019 8:20 pm
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JP LK BB JP BB JP BB LK YD LK JP LK CC KC JP
LK_"Torah Historicity" Chronology at qdl.scs-inc.us/?top=6883
JP_CC's chronology messes up Christ's genealogy
BB_second verse of Genesis led > event which led > utter chaos
LK_"God" ~= Creator, "Earth" ~= our planet, "created" ~= from nothing
CC_Jesus' genealogy < 2nd Temple < King Josiah < 1st Temple maybe not verbatim
M_Moses' model: [strata] before ice ages, Noah's flood after
LK_Moses' catastrophist model at [ futureschool.boards.net/post/30/thread
M_Moses' model [not] < Thornhill
JP_Earth, Venus and Mars were in polar axial alignment with Saturn's poles
--<LK_??? Then how could Earth have orbited Saturn?>
JP_electrical discharge machining is missing piece of creationis[m]
JP_Mount St Helens strata, Electrical discharge machining, separate events of deposition
JP_Berthault's & Andrew Hall's ionic winds & Fossilisation = [short times]
BB_link to fossilized wire
JP_Saturnian Configuration is plausible
<Dec 02, 2019 10:02 pm
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BB M JP LK CC M JP YD CC MX JP JP CC BB BB
JP_JEDPR analysis debunked
LK_CC's model < archeological findings
CC_Saturn theory conflicts with bible, but bible has catastrophist thread, evidence meteoric airburst over Dead Sea >> Sodom & Gomorrah
CC_bible's contradictions < redactors or divine intervention
*CC_dinosaurs [couldn’t live now]; atmosphere was a lot thicker? KT impact caused dramatic reduction in atmospheric buoyancy; affected vulcanism, flood basalts
JP_list of Hebrew words for all planets to Saturn
JP_Jesus criticized not second temple but Sadducees
JP_no explicit Saturnian imagery in bible, but many places deductable
JP_Josephus wrote re Christ
JP_editorial comments in Torah = glosses
YD_new religions formed worldwide 600 or 700 BC, no new Gods, see Irving Wolfe
CC_Deuteronomic History is probable fact
JP_maybe people could live to 900 before the flood as the world was different, maybe with a proto-Saturn 'mist' and plasmaspheric warming, Shang Dynasty reported longevity
JP_six days in Genesis
BB_God made two great lights. Gen 1:16 vs. Psalms
<Dec 07, 2019 4:23 pm
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BB PM JP LK BB BB JP BB BB M JP LK BB PM LK
JP_author of Psalm 136 misunderstood Genesis 1:14-16
JP_"two great lights" of Genesis hints at a different sky in the past
BB_Gen 1:16 and Psalm 136:7-9 are two different types of literature, a historical account and a hymn, where planets and stars receive little emphasis
JP_there are no definite articles in the Hebrew of Ps 136:7: "You made great lights..."
JP_that passage is of critical importance to rebut creationists re Saturn theory
LK_CC/EDM
*LK_Charles explained craters formed by impacts at
www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=884&hilit=charleschandler+edm&start=135
<Dec 11, 2019 11:36 am
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BB LK BB BB BB NC JP JP YD NC BB BB BB NC JP
BB_circumstantial evidence in Gen 1-11 for extraordinarily different conditions on earth: gigantism, long lifespans, mass extincion; appearance of rainbows; geographical barriers; loss of original language
LK_QUESTIONS: archeological evidence; Hebrew words for terms relevant to catastrophism
NC_The Many Faces of Venus by Ev Cochrane: www.maverickscience.com/the-many-faces-of-venus/
JP_8674 words in the entire Hebrew Scriptures [minus] 2,415 proper names = 6,259 words
JP_JP's catastrophist model
JP_*see re Mt. St. Helens creation.com/lessons-from-mount-st-helens re sedimentary deposition;
Canyons; Grooves cut in bedrock; Coal formation; polystrate tree fossils; Radioisotope dating
*YD_King List some 2400 years ago is oldest historical document; Sumerian sources 2000 BC
*YD_close agreement on the lifespans between Sumerian texts, the Bible and King List
YD_Hindu and Chinese said 9 patriarchs before the flood;
YD_read Bishop Ussher's Annals of the World
NC_"barad" in Worlds in Collision on p 55 as meteorites or hot rocks
NC_need comparative analysis
BB_terms for all celestial bodies in Deuteronomy 4:19
JP_Velikovsky has copious footnotes on various Hebrew words from p.207 ff Worlds in Collision
<Dec 13, 2019 9:12 pm
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BB BB BB LK PM BB BB BB LK JP BB BB WM LK JP
BB_It was fiery hail _There is a verse which uses "evan" /stones and "barad"/hail as parallel terms for the same event, in which rocks fell from heaven Ex 9
PM_bible < Sumerian myths
PM_rapid continental drift < centrifugal force, mountains < weak rock, no subduction
PM_PM's model: Earth is much younger than 6,000 years; [no] rapid continental drift; Bolides could not [hit] planet(s); “craters” < planetary lightning; super continent broke < centrifugal force; local history = bible
PM_PM's model: meant to say earth could be older, but present terrain Could be 2-3 thousand years old; the continents broke up to where they are now in a day or so; people were scattered with the land masses; oldest book drew upon Sumerian myths
BB_petroglyphs around the world match plasma formations in the lab; pre-literate people's myths were replete with references to electricity, thunderbolts, and catastrophic events
BB_Cyrus Cylinder
BB_Important to physically test the historical ideas in catastrophism with field work and SEM testing
BB_events Old Testament not in cultural vacuum
BB_law code of Hammurabi compare with law code of Moses
BB_caste societies
WM_old testament vs new testament
<Dec 17, 2019 7:11 pm
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LK LK BB BB BB BB JP BB NC LK JP CC LK CC BB
LK_interesting Hebrew words
LK_Great Deep
JP_analysis of Hebrew words associated with catastrophism; Benner's Ancient Hebrew Lexicon
JP_some Hebrew words relevant to catastrophism
NC_everything in the sky was a star and a god
LK_"Atenism & Early Judaism" at qdl.scs-inc.us/2ndParty/Pages/8232.html
JP_Adonai for YHWH
*<LK--Adonai = Aten? = Venus comet enclosure>
CC_similarities in Atenism & Early Judaism
CC_Abraham came before both Moses & Akhenaten
LK_TB team ~agree w Ages in Chaos
CC_Aten = Athena
<Dec 21, 2019 3:37 pm
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BB CC BB JP CC BB BB LK BB BB BB CC JP CC D
BB_Deep = ocean, ~sky
BB_sabbath = rest, = 7?
JP_link together Saturn, Sabbath & Babylon
BB_Ugarit Schaffer 13th century BC final destruction layers
BB_Ark was not worshiped
<LK--God dwelled between the angels on the Ark = electricity - pacificcog.org/studypapers/HeWhoDwellsBetweenTheCherubim.pdf - In the Old Testament both the LORD of Hosts and the God of Israel are identified with the phrase “dwells between the cherubim”. This phrase is used 7 different times in the Old Testament (1 Samuel 4:4; 2 Samuel 6:2; 2 Kings 19:15; 1 Chronicles 13:6; Psalms 80:1; Psalms 99:1; Isaiah 37:16).>
<LK--Does bible say angels or cherubim had wings? Wings = comet?>
<LK--What are Hebrew terms relating to angels etc?>
JP_SH-B-T rest/cease, SH-B-' oath/seven
JP_no days prior to 'day one'
*CC_Atum = formless creator god > Aten = Adon
*CC_shab'aten > Shabbat if shab'aten was illegal
<Dec 24, 2019 9:54 am
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JP NC JP LK CC JP YD LK NC JP JP BB BB Y JP
JP_Velik shows Amenhotep III at time of Ahab
JP_Cardona said Thornhill said Earth orbited Saturn
LK_CRITICAL RE-APPRAISAL OF THE BOOK OF GENESIS
CC_pharaoh = God
JP_Hebrew < Akkadian cuneiform
YD_Middle Eastern dating & dark ages
LK_C14 dating supports conventional chronology
NC_C14 dating adjustments are biased, see The Extinction of the Mammoth
JP_C14 dating errors
JP_Hebrew words suggestive of catastrophism www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=17502&start=120#p129598
Y_water canopy around planets
JP_canopy = plasmasphere, which were involved in cataclysms
<Dec 26, 2019 8:56 pm
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Y LK LK CC JP Y Y LK
*LK_Cochrane's articles vs revised chronologies
LK_Questions re Atenism
*CC_Aten ~= winged sun disk, which originated ca 2600BC (p531 oi.uchicago.edu/sites/oi.uchicago.edu/files/uploads/shared/docs/SHONKWILERDISSERTATION.pdf
JP_4,000,000+ petroglyphs worldwide detailing plasma phenomena
Y_Reasons to doubt C14 dating
LK_Comments on JP’s shared Hebrew terms
Post by Admin on Jul 11, 2020 at 10:12pm
Creationism, Myth and Catastrophism SECOND THREAD INDEX
1. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13
_Catastrophism in the Bible
_Thread Summary: . docs.google.com/document/d/1N6DSuZNzgPVRcVhct1_voeGVYgMOzkUcflWg1J2ddIM/edit
_MAIN TOPICS OF THIS THREAD
DEFINE CATASTROPHISM
THE BIBLE AND ANCIENT MYTHS (Links)
ELECTRICAL FORCES IN CATASTROPHISM (Links)
OTHER IMPORTANT MODELS (Links)
_Bible Catastrophism
_CC, LK on the Flood
_W on Atlanteans
_MAJOR FINDINGS IN CATASTROPHISM
2. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=15
_MF Himalayas . ibb.co/CHNvCXv
_SD Impact . ibb.co/khdwZ8F
_CC/Sodom and Gamorrah Impact
_Hebrew Origin
_AMARNA DATING
"Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm"
_Hebrew Origin
3. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=30
_Amarna Dating
_How Earth got the Moon
_CATASTROPHISM SEARCHES
_Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible
_Bible Deities
_Moon Capture
_Saturn System Breakup 3300BC
_CC,MF.../MOON FORMATION ETC
_Impacts vs EDM
_IMPACT CRATERS
_Bible two great lights
4. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=45
_Saturn Deluge
_Mercury atmosphere
_Barry Setterfield on Craters
_Barry supports Charles' ideas quite a bit
_Amarna dating links
_JP's college
_Ark of the Covenant electricity
5. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=60
_"Lost Secrets of the Sacred Ark"
_Origins of Noah’s Ark link
_ARK OF THE COVENANT at Catastrophism.com
_Ark and Corona search results
_Ark Leyden Jar
_Priests Rulers
_RULING CLASS ORIGIN
ANCIENT ELECTRIFICATION
_David's Sons as Officials
_Israelites' Failures
6. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=75
_Limitations on kings in Judea
_Creationist Articles on catastrophism Links
_Bible & Saturn Theory Questions
_Creation vs. re-creation post-Deluge
_PASSOVER
_Moses & Moon had horns
_QEREN, QARAN, KORAN
_Circle, cross and crescent
_Saturn Polar Configuration
_COMPARING MODELS
*_Hangeth the earth upon nothing
_Gobekli Tepe constellations vs Saturn Theory
7. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=90
_CATASTROPHIST MODELS
_Gobleki Tepe
_Gilgamesh flood
_Cataclysmic EDM
_New Zealand ancient creatures
_Dates before about 2,300 BC are crap
_Hebrew Bible Words
_Moses Horns
8. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=105
_Ocean Basins from EDM & Electric Evolution
_Orbit to Ice Age/s
_Geological Column
_Genome Alteration
_Laminated Deposition; Fossil Formation; Pre-deluge Longevity
_EDM vs Water Erosion/Deposition
_Primal Forces of Geology
_Turned evolution back thousands of years
9. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=120
_Ebner Effect Link
_Connect Setterfield, Ransom, Thornill and Hall together
_EDM CRATERS vs. *BOLIDE IMPACT THERMONUCLEAR EXPLOSION CRATERS
Fusion byproducts decay fast
_ANDY HALL'S et al EDM THEORY
_Formation of 'flatirons'
_Flatirons Cross Sections
10. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=135
_Flatirons
_Atlantic EDM
_Flatirons-like Images; Ionic Winds
_Flatirons from Great Flood Regression
_Analysis of Flatirons Water Drainage
_Strata Curvature; Shockwave Images; Bible, Mountains Skipped
_Ionic Wind Problems
*_SOME PROOF OF CONTINENTAL DRIFT
_Ancient GLOBAL Civilization
_Post-deluge Levant Civilization
_Stellar nova event
11. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=150
_Stellar nova event
_CC: K class Stars Nova
_Cosmic Magnetic fields & Electric Currents
_Heliosheath Magnetic field
_Problems with the Anode Sun model
*_CATHODE SUN?
12. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=165
*_Relative cathode planets
*_Cathode Sun
_FUTURESCHOOL Geology RESOURCES; VENUS CATASTROPHISM Articles
_Myths say Saturn Nova caused Flood
_CARDONA'S HYPOTHESES in his book, Metamorphic Star;
*_Cardona's dating is wrong
_CARDONA'S BOOKS & Contents
_Cardona's Material condensed
_COMMENTS ON CARDONA'S MODEL: FLARE-UP AT HELIOSPHERE, BREAKUP AT ASTEROID BELT? FLOOD BEFORE CONFLAGRATION AND ICE AGE
_Creation myths, excepting the Biblical one, are post-Deluge
*_UNIVERSE NOT EXPANDING
_COMPARING CATASTROPHIST MODELS
_Non-Compton Non-Expanding Universe
*_John Kierein Compton Effect Redshift
_Non-Compton Effect
13. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=180
_MAIN ISSUES FOR DISCUSSION?
*_STRATA FORMATION
_7. and 7a. geologic column, is false
_Great Flood Critique
*_Baumgartner's megasequences
*_GLOBAL ROCK STRATA MEGASEQUENCES
*_Maps of sediment thickness & Major basins
_CARDONA'S MODEL
_C14 dating
*_C14 DATING & RADIOACTIVE FOSSILS
_ORIGIN OF EARTH RADIOACTIVITY; RADIOACTIVE FOSSILS & C14 DATING
*_FROM WALTER BROWN'S MODEL: The Origin of Earth’s Radioactivity
*_MORE DETAILS ON BROWN'S MODEL (Electrical Forces Produced Radioactivity, which entered some fossils)
_ELECTRICAL FORCES PRODUCED CONTINENTAL RADIOACTIVITY
ELECTRICAL FORCES DOMINATE GEOLOGY
CATASTROPHISM PARTIAL SUMMARY
14. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=195
*_REDSHIFT COMPTON EFFECT
_MAIN ISSUES FOR DISCUSSION SO FAR
_POST-FLOOD CATACLYSMS; IONIC WINDS
_TWO SATURN FLAREUPS; Ancient Cataclysms
_K-T Boundary Misplacement
_Csuzdi says Electrical Repulsion causes continental drift
_Csuzdi vs Chandler & Fischer
_Biggest impact
_ANCIENT MAPS FRAUD?
15. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=210
_CREATIONIST BIAS
_SATURN FLARE-UPS & COAL FORMATION
_TARS BEFORE THE FLOOD; TAR PITS
_TAR PIT DECAY EXPERIMENT
_COAL & TAR FORMATION WORKSHOP; CHICAGO FIRE
_MORE CHICAGO FIRE
_COAL FORMATION WORKSHOP
*_COAL ANALYSES ETC
16. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=225
_EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE; HYDROCARBONS FROM COMETS
_Glacial ESKERS FROM COMETS?
HYDROCARBONS IN METEORITES
_ESKERS
_GLACIAL OR CATACLYSMIC DEPOSITS?
_GLACIAL LANDFORMS
*_FLOODED ICE SHEET
RE ESKERS, SUBGLACIAL MELTWATER
_Creation.com censoring
_CREATIONIST BIAS
_ORIGIN OF LOESS; COSMIC DUST; Glacial DRIFT; MUCK
*_COSMIC METALS ON EARTH
_FOSSIL CONCRETIONS
_COMETARY DEBRIS
_COSMIC DEBRIS FALLS ON EARTH; *MAJOR FINDING
17. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=240
_Saturn Flare-ups during Great Flood and After
_THREAD SUMMARY/INDEX
*_ASTEROID IMPACT DURING GREAT FLOOD; "STREWN FIELD"; ERRATICS, ERRATIC BOULDERS
_MAPS OF ERRATICS AGAIN
_ERRATIC MEGABLOCK MYSTERY SOLVED; ERRATIC BOULDERS
_ALBERTA ERRATICS TRAIN FLOW
_THREAD INDEX; COMETARY DEBRIS / SATURN FLARE-UPS PARTIAL SUMMARY
_PRIMORDIAL STAR
_SOME NOTES ON IMPACTS; *CRATONIC BASINS FROM IMPACTS DURING GREAT FLOOD; *RAIN DURING GREAT FLOOD; COMETARY DEBRIS DURING YOUNGER DRYAS EVENT AFTER GREAT FLOOD
*_DENSER ATMOSPHERE BEFORE GREAT FLOOD
_VENUS' SURFACE
_VENUS IMAGES/MAPS; *GRAVITY & MEGAFAUNA/MEGAFLORA
*_THICKER ATMOSPHERE BEFORE THE GREAT FLOOD
_MY FORMER SUMMARY OF EARTH HISTORY; *EARTH'S FORMER WETTER, LARGER, THICKER ATMOSPHERE
*_LESS DISEASE BEFORE THE CATACLYSMS
18. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=255
_THREAD INDEX; EARTH'S CATACLYSMIC HISTORY
_MORE THINKING ON EARTH'S CATACLYSMIC HISTORY: AGE OF DARKNESS; SATURN MYTHS; SATURN SYSTEM ORIGIN; SATURN FLARE-UPS
_Critique of my CATACLYSMIC HISTORY
_Bible FALLIBILITY; STARLIGHT Light Speed; SUPERCONTINENT Soft Landing
_Gap Theory
_Critique of Gap Theory
_Genesis Catastrophism
_SHOCK DYNAMICS AFTER THE FLOOD (MFishcer's Model); My Comments: *SD in late stage of Flood
_MY TENTATIVE DATING OF CHAPTER TITLES IN CARDONA'S BOOKS; CARDONA'S MISDATING; PHASES OF CATACLYSMS
_BEFORE AND AFTER GENESIS CREATION: (from NEWBORN STAR) ORDER OUT OF CHAOS; THE MAYIM; VIOLENT RE-CREATIONS; THE CIRCUMSTELLAR DISK; *THE SEVEN DAYS; THE DAY OF REST; THE FIRMAMENT
_Genesis Cataclysms
19. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=270
_Psychoanalytical model of history
_RELIGION search at Catastrophism.com
_EARTH HISTORY: PREHISTORY; GREAT FLOOD; POST-FLOOD; YOUNGER DRYAS FLARFE-UP; RETURN OF CIVILIZATION
*_ICE AGE
_False objectivity
_Timeline visuals
_VISUALS HELP
_TB Forum software problem for images
_My visuals
_IMAGES; *SATURN'S RINGS & ITS HOUSE
_Flawed psychoanalytical approach to history
_Biblical planet-worship
20. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=285
_Idols in the ancient world
_Most ancient peoples worshipped the planets
*_MYTHS WERE POST-FLOOD (and mostly before the Younger Dryas Flare-up)
_Scientific pretensions of psychoanalysis
_Scientific Method; *IRON-60 (in solar system space) FROM SATURN NOVA?
_ELECTRIC NOVA (re the ancient Saturn System)
_PINNING DOWN THE SATURN THEORY (to actual ancient cataclysmic events, answering critiques)
_SATURN NOVA EJECTA: IRON-60, IRIDIUM?, MICROSPHERULES?, CLAY?
_THREAD INDEX
_SATURN NOVA EJECTA (iridium etc) & VENUS' HEAT
_CARDONA ON YOUNGER DRYAS (for ideas about Saturn Nova Ejecta)
_CARDONA, YOUNGER DRYAS, CONDENSED
*_IMPACTS DURING THE GREAT FLOOD; False Glaciation Evidence; YOUNGER DRYAS CONFLAGRATION (vitrified structures)
_TIAHUANACO AFTER THE FLOOD, BEFORE LAST SATURN FLARE; PRESENT MOON REPLACED FORMER MOON
_MORE ON TIAHUANACO DISASTER; MASS GRAVES; EGYPTIAN CONNECTION
Post by Admin on Sep 14, 2020 at 10:25am
(Continued from above)
21. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=300
_SATURN'S LAST FLARE-UP;
*COPPER FOR BRONZE AGE AFTER GREAT FLOOD;
*GLOBAL COOLING ABOUT 2300 BC; CAUSE OF THE GLOBAL COOLING; DUST RING; SUPERCOOLING
_REVIEWING PREVIOUS PAGE OF THIS THREAD;
SATURN FLARE-UP & ARCTIC CATASTROPHE; MAP OF PERMAFROST; SATURN FLARE CAUSE OF SUDDEN ARCTIC FREEZING ETC
_Psychoanalytic History
_SUMMARY OF RECENT FINDINGS (incomplete);
TWO MOONS CAUSED TWO FLOODS?;
TWO, THREE, OR FOUR SATURN FLARES CAUSED "RECENT" CATACLYSMS?;
FLOOD #2 AND ICE AGE
*_FORMER ARCTIC FLORA/PLANTS; COMPARE WITH THIS SUSSEX ARTICLE; FORB PASTURES FOR LIVESTOCK ANIMALS;
GOLDEN AGE BETWEEN FLOODS;
ICE SHEET DURING GOLDEN AGE;
SECOND FLOOD PLUS HEAT & COLD - END OF GOLDEN AGE
_MORE ON ARCTIC PERMAFROST;
YOUNGER DRYAS DUST STORMS?
NORTH POLAR TORNADO?;
ANCIENT ARCTIC BIOLOGY
_Don Patten Book
_NORTH POLAR VORTEX
_FROM CARDONA'S SATURN MODEL CONFERENCE PAPER;
THE WHIRLING RAY FROM ABOVE;
THE CHURNING OF THE OCEAN;
Sussex PERMAFROST article; THE ONSLAUGHT OF ICE;
EARTH'S SHIFTING AXIS
*_CARDONA ON THE POLAR COLUMN (from God Star and Flare Star); SHU [[Polar Column]]; THE ONE-LEGGED GOD; THE FIERY AXIS; THE WHIRLING RAY FROM ABOVE; [[MATERIAL FLOW]];
THE ARCTIC DEPRESSION;
THE RETRACTION; BACKLASH [CREATION]
_RETURNING TO CARDONA'S HYPOTHESES
_FLARE-UP HEAT WAVE TO FREEZING
*_WAS THERE SUPERCOOLING OF THE ARCTIC? EVIDENCE OF FLASH FREEZING
22. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=315
_ARCTIC FLASH FREEZE OR NOT? Were woolly mammoths quick-frozen in Siberia?
TWO INSTANCES OF FLASH FREEZING FROM BROWN
_SATURN HEAT & COLD BLASTS
_MORE ON SATURN'S COLD BLAST; FLASH FREEZING
FLASH FREEZING NOT REQUIRED
*REMAINING EVIDENCE FOR FLASH FREEZING
HUMANS HUNTED MAMMOTHS?
LIFE BELOW FREEZING (Reviving Frozen Organisms)
_TIME FOR A RECAP: EARTH HISTORY: 1. PREHISTORY ?-4,500 BP; 2. GREAT FLOOD 4,500 BP; 3. GOLDEN AGE 4,500-4,250 BP; 4. YOUNGER DRYAS EVENT 4,250 BP; 5. CIVILIZATION 4,250 - 0 BP
*_MOE MANDELKEHR'S CATASTROPHIST MODEL: CLIMATE CHANGE; METEOROID STREAM; GLACIATION; SEA LEVEL CHANGES; CRUSTAL MOVEMENTS; EARTHQUAKES; GEOMAGNETISM; RADIOCARBON DATING; MYTHS
_THREAD HIGHLIGHTS: MAJOR FINDINGS; EARTH HISTORY; CARDONA'S MODEL; PREHISTORY; FLOOD; GOLDEN AGE; MYTHS; SATURN FLARES; *YOUNGER DRYAS CATACLYSMS
_PS, COMMENT on ICE AGE
_RECENT ARTICLES/VIDEOS: MEGALITHS & LIGHTNING; ANCIENT EGYPTIANS, SIRIUS, PLEIADES, GALACTIC FILAMENTS; SATURN NOVA SHOCKWAVES & NANODIAMONDS
_MORE FROM CARDONA'S BOOKS: THE GOD SHU AS SATURN'S POLAR COLUMN; POLAR COLUMN REMNANTS ON EARTH; REMNANTS ON SATURN; SATURN HEATING REMNANT UNDER EARTH'S NORTH POLE; *PROOF OF SATURN'S POSSIBLE FORMER POLAR COLUMN
_FLOOD OR GLACIER?: MOUNTAIN UPLIFT, STRIATIONS & ERRATICS; *FLOOD WINS; FOSSIL-FREE TILLITES/DEBRIS FROM SATURN?; WHICH FLOOD? NOAH'S OR YD?
_Oblate or Prolate Oceans
_Tiahuanaco Uplift
_TIAHUANACO ON PROLATE EARTH WITH FASTER SPIN?; ANDES MOUNTAINS UPLIFTED BEFORE OR AFTER TIAHUANACO WAS BUILT?; CONTINTENTAL DRIFT, OCEAN RESISTANCE, MOUNTAIN FORMATION; Andes Expedition
_Prolate Tides
23. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=330
_Prolate Tides, Water World
_Mars between Earth & Moon
_Precambrian was way over Biblical timeline of 6,000 years ago
_Velikovsky not a Creationist
_TIAHUANACO: UNDERWATER CITY IN LAKE TITICACA; TIAHUANACO & LAKE TITICACA; TIAHUANACO FLOOD; TIAHUANACO SUN GATE; HORBIGER THEORY; TIAHUANACO AGRICULTURE; SUMMARY
_SATURN MYTH: From Myth to a Physical Model
_MYTHIC CLUES TO CATASTROPHIST CHRONOLOGY; THOTH BACK ISSUES: TALBOTT & CARDONA
_TALBOTT ON SATURN MYTHS
*_WORKING ON CHRONOLOGY VIA MYTHS: SEVEN SATURN MYTH THEMES; JUPITER AS SATURN REBORN; WARS OF THE GODS OR TITANS; 260-DAY YEAR; MARS CLOSE TO EARTH; MARS CLOSE TO VENUS; BEGINNING & END OF THE GOLDEN AGE; MARS' LOSS OF ATMOSPHERE AND OCEANS; MARS ECLIPSED SATURN; ORIGIN OF LANGUAGE; PERMAFROST AFTER BREAKUP; MARS & VENUS DURING BREAKUP & JUPITER'S ARRIVAL
_Cardona's Literature
_NEW OUTLINE OF EARTH HISTORY: EARTH HISTORY SUMMARY (5 Ages); LINKS TO WORK IN PROGRESS; DETAILED SUMMARY
_COMMENTS ON PREVIOUS POST REGARDING EARTH HISTORY SUMMARY: SATURN/JUPITER SYSTEM EVOLUTION
_WHEN SATURN, MARS, JUPITER, VENUS & EARTH LEFT THE SATURN SYSTEM; ZEUS WAS MARS
_SKY EVENTS DURING THE GOLDEN AGE: SATURN CONFIGURATION; CONFLAGRATION; JUPITER REPLACING SATURN
24. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=345
_VENUS DIDN'T STEAL MARS' ATMOSPHERE?
_Cosmogonic Egg
_PLASMASPHERES
_THE ILIAD & THE END OF THE GOLDEN AGE?
_Plasmaspheres
*_SOME CIVILIZATION CAME FROM THE NORTH; TALBOTT ON SATURN SYSTEM BREAKUP 1997
_JUPITER, SUCCESSOR TO SATURN, IN MYTHS: LABYRINTH AND FORTRESS OF THE GODS; REJUVENATED SOVEREIGN; THE ILIAD online; SON OF ANU
_SATURN FLARE, POLAR COLUMN, *PERATT'S PAPER
*_PETROGLYPHS PROVE AN ANCIENT INTENSE AURORA EVENT: OUTBURSTS REMOVE SOME ATMOSPHERE; SOLAR WIND MAGNETIC PRESSURE; SOME DATA DEPICT INSTABILITY PATTERNS; *PICTOGRAPHS DATE TO 7,000 YEARS BP; SOUTH POLE DIRECTION; SIMULATION WITH DISTANCES; YOUNGER DRYAS, SATURN FLARE, MAGNETIC FIELD
_MORE ON PERATT'S PETROGLYPHS: LONG-LASTING ARTIFICIAL PLASMA TOROIDS; *PETROGLYPHS DATE TO AT LEAST 4,000 BP; DECADE-LONG; DAYTIME; 56-FOLD FILAMENTS & STONEHENGE
_PETROGLYPHS VS. SATURN THEORY: SOUTH SKY VS. NORTH
*_SATURN THEORY MOTIFS FROM PETROGLYPHS; PERATT'S ANCIENT INTENSE AURORAS
_IPUWER PAPYRUS FROM 2ND INTERMEDIATE PERIOD OF EGYPT
_MYTHS, PETROGLYPHS, ENHANCED AURORA
_REVISED BIBLE CHRONOLOGY: A Brief Summary of the Evidence for a Gap in the Bible and Much Earlier Dates for Many of its Major Events
25. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=360
_2 previous posts; THE GREAT FLOOD; *NOAH’S FLOOD: THE KEY TO CORRECT INTERPRETATION OF EARTH HISTORY
_SOME MAJOR PARTS OF EGYPTIAN, BIBLICAL & CATASTROPHIST CHRONOLOGY: MY EARTH HISTORY SUMMARY; MY TIMELINE OF MAJOR EVENTS; CHARLES CHANDLER'S CHRONOLOGY + MY COMMENTS
_TRYING TO FIND THE DATE OF THE GREAT FLOOD:
*BAUMGARDNER'S PAPER SHOWS THAT SEDIMENTARY ROCK WAS MOSTLY FLOOD-DEPOSITED;
*THE CONTINENTS ARE ABOUT 6,000 YEARS OLD?; THE CONTINENTS ARE UNDER 8,000 YEARS OLD;
POST-FLOOD WOOD UNDER 38,000 YEARS OLD; *COAL WAS FLOATING VEGETATION DEPOSITED DURING THE FLOOD; COAL IS UNDER 35,000 YEARS OLD; SOME OIL IS UNDER 5,000 YEARS OLD; *OLDEST TREE IS 4,700 YEARS OLD;
*THE BIBLE DATES THE FLOOD TO 4,500 OR 5,200 YEARS AGO;
I RECKON A FEW THINGS re Chetwynd's Older Bible Events Dating & CC's Chronology
_TREE-RING DATING INACCURACY;
GOBEKLI TEPE Labyrinth;
UPDATE: DATING THE GREAT FLOOD BY ROCK STRATA
_NORTH POLE TO THE SATURN SYSTEM?: ANCIENT MAPS ARE REAL?;
Regarding DATING THE GREAT FLOOD BY ROCK STRATA
_[Great Flood] how the strata were laid down
_Septuagint, plus Josephus vs. Masoretic [Flood Dating]
_Sumerian cities, Genesis 10, single language, Velikovsky, confusion of languages
*_Velikovsky, neurological effects: *structures were overwhelmed by hurricanes and powerful electrical discharges; Tower of Babel; *people who lost their memory; earth underwent an electromagnetic disturbance
_[Bible] Cities and destruction, World Empires, beasts
_GREAT FLOOD & PRE-FLOOD STRATA: GREAT UNCONFORMITY;
BIBLICAL CATACLYSMS
_TOWER OF BABEL: Saturn configuration
_exegetical methodology [disagreement about tower = polar column, Saturn configuration, Samson pillars]
26. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=375
_TOWER OF BABEL & SAMSON; world is 6,000 to 10,000 years old; zircons
_polar column, glow mode
_tower to the heavens, polar configuration implied; Mercury, confusion of languages; planetary aspect to angelology; bogus exegetical approaches
_EXTERNAL EVIDENCE RE TOWER OF BABEL; *ANCIENTS WERE CONFUSED RE HEAVEN; SCIENCE VS FAITH
PLASMA COLUMN
_TOWER OF BABEL: *VELIKOVSKY SAID THE ANCIENTS WERE CONFUSED; CENTURIES BETWEEN CATACLYSMS 2 & 3
_Flawed Psychoanalysis of Ancient History
*_See Randall Carlson on Floods
_BIBLE STORIES VS ANCIENT MYTHS
*RANDALL CARLSON & THE YOUNGER DRYAS EVENT
_CREATION EVENT POSSIBLY FORMED THE FORMER SUPERCONTINENT; NEW SCENARIO
_SOME BIBLE STORIES ARE SKY MYTHS: SAMSON MYTHS COMPARISON; SAMSON STORY IN THE SKY; EVIDENCE OF SAMSON ON EARTH?; ADAM & EVE IN THE SKY; EARTH'S TILT IN THE BIBLE; ABRAHAM IN THE SKY; DAVID & GOLIATH IN THE SKY
*_YOUNG EARTH OR YOUNG SUPERCONTINENT: DATING HELIUM IN ZIRCONS; DATING ARGON IN GRANITE; COAL, DIAMONDS, DINOSAUR BONES; MY SLIGHTLY REVISED TIMELINE; SEVERAL POSSIBLE MEANS OF SUPERCONTINENT COLONIZATION
_Bible Inerrancy (Genealogy Link)
27. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=390
_CREATIONISM COMMENT
_Bible Inerrancy
_Gigantism; New Sun
*_WORD & SPIRIT OF GOD; GIGANTISM
_Dusty Space
_GIGANTISM
_CATACLYSMIC HISTORY: EARTH HISTORY: FIVE AGES
_BIBLICALLY DATING TWO FLOODS OR ONE?
*_MT is Correct; LXX is Incorrect
28. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=405
_BIBLICAL FLOOD DATES
_BOOK THAT REKINDLED CREATIONISM: ROCK FORMATIONS OUT OF SEQUENCE; MISPLACED HUMAN FOSSILS; PRE-FLOOD VAPOR CANOPY; *FLOOD-DEPOSITED STRATA; PRE-FLOOD CONDITIONS & LONGEVITY
_JP's Creation, Flood & YD Dates 4000BC,2344BC,1890BC
_COMPARATIVE FLOOD MYTHOLOGY: GREAT FLOOD LEGENDS
_3000 BC GREAT FLOOD
_JP's Flood Dating Sources
_Gilgamesh Flood
_GREAT FLOOD CA. 3000 BC; CITIES SUBMERGED DURING YD FLOOD?
_JERICHO MYTH; OTHER BIBLE MYTHS; BIBLE MYTHS, INCLUDING JONAH etc
_SUBMARINE CANYONS AND FORMER SEA LEVELS <Creation.com
_Jericho not Myth
_NECESSARY BIAS; ALASKAN ETC MUCK FROM YD FLOOD & SATURN SYSTEM BREAKUP
_The Sky
_Jericho not Myth
_Samson not Myth
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_Samson Story Absurd in not Myth
_Bias Accusation
_Graham Hancock & Randall Carlson video links; Moses & Flood from Mars
_PROTO-SATURN'S CIRCUMSTELLAR DISK: NEWBORN STAR; TOHU WA BOHU & ELOHIM WERE SUMERIAN GODS OF WATERS ETC
_Moses & Flood not from Mars
_Critique of Tohu wa Bohu as Gods
_GENESIS TOHU WA BOHU & THE SATURN THEORY; Tohu wa Bohu <INTERPLANETARY DEBRIS
_SIFTING OUT THE BEST FROM GOODSON - *SATURN SYSTEM BREAKUP AT YOUNGER DRYAS
_EARTH HISTORY: *GENESIS CREATION WAS AFTER THE GREAT FLOOD - NOAH'S FLOOD WAS LATER
_SOME OF MY NOTES ON CARDONA'S LAST BOOK, NEWBORN STAR
_NEWBORN STAR, 1st Part
_TIAHUANACO PROBLEM
_JP: Geosynchronous Orbiting Object
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_Nick: IV: Tiahuanaco built before mountains uplifted
_Mo: Mountain uplift via Mars flyby
_TIAHUANACO PUZZLE CONTINUED
_Nick
_Dren: Temple submerged in Lake Titicaca
_TIAHUANACO BUILT AT SEA LEVEL OR AT 12,000 FEET?
_Nick: Altiplano strand lines
_Dren
_Nick: Darwin saw strand lines
_TIAHUANACO SEQUENCE OF EVENTS
_Mo vs supercontinent vs Bible dating
_AGE OF CONTINENTS; SUBMERGED ANCIENT RUINS
_Mo: zircons not enough for dating
_Nick: Juergens said Saturn was a brown dwarf
_Brigit: How did IV explain mountains uplift?
Post by Admin on Feb 19, 2021 at 11:06am
(Continued from above)
31. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=450
_Brigit
_Nick: External forces formed Earth's plates catastrophically
*_LK: Megalithic Culture video
_LK, LK, Nick: Juergens re Saturn as brown dwarf
_SEDIMENTARY ROCKS, BASINS, ICE AGE, LOESS, ESKERS
_COMPARING CREATION.COM WITH CARDONA: FLOOD OR SATURN FLARE
*SEDIMENTARY BASINS FORMED BY IMPACTS
*PETROLEUM FORMED FROM MARINE ALGAE BURIED IN THE GREAT FLOOD
*ICE AGE & ARCTIC MUCK, LOESS ETC
REMAINING MYSTERIES: ESKERS & TIAHUANACO
*_I FINALLY UNDERSTAND ESKERS PROBABLY
NOW I'M QUOTING CARDONA IN FLARE STAR re Eskers
*SAHARA STRIATIONS WERE CAUSED BY FLOOD LANDSLIDES, NOT GLACIATION
_TIAHUANACO BLOGPAGE: BUILT BEFORE THE FLOOD? THE MYSTERY OF TIAHUANACO
_CHRONOLOGICALLY REORGANIZED HIGH PROBABILITY THREAD POSTS
_JP's comments on CMI's Response to the "Electric Universe"
_Brigit comments on her church's bible readings
_JP comments on CMI's cult-like belief
32. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=465
_MORE HIGH PROBABILITY CATACLYSM FINDINGS:
I THINK ESKERS PROVE THE ICE SHEET COVERED MUCH OF CANADA ETC. SEE ESKERS MAP
ICE SHEET WAS THIN & SHORT-LIVED AFTER THE GREAT FLOOD
FLOOD LANDSLIDES, NOT GLACIAL FLOW; FLOOD ERRATICS
_ICE AGE BEGINNING & END
_Brigit comments on the Book of Job
_CATACLYSMIC ELECTRICAL EFFECTS, LIKE CRATERS & RILLES
_Brigit comments on the hubris of scientists
_CATASTROPHIC HISTORY FINDINGS FROM THIS THREAD:
UNIVERSE, SOLAR SYSTEM & EARTH; REDSHIFT COMPTON EFFECT; CATHODE SUN
THE CONTINENTS ARE ABOUT **6,000 YEARS OLD; THE CONTINENTS ARE UNDER **8,000 YEARS OLD;
YOUNG EARTH OR YOUNG SUPERCONTINENT: **DATING HELIUM IN ZIRCONS; **DATING ARGON IN GRANITE
_MORE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN ANCIENT CIVILIZATIONS
_SERIOUS GLOBAL PROBLEM: (COVID TYRANNY)
_Nick says not to discuss
_GaryN says Enlil Sends Plague to Destroy Humans
_CREATIONIST CATASTROPHIST GEOLOGICAL FINDINGS (from my TB SCI Blog)
_MORE CREATIONIST ARTICLES OF 2020
_GRADUALIST SEDIMENTOLOGY NONSENSE (ANCIENT ARCHITECTS)
33. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=480
_CREATIONIST ARTICLES 2019 to Now; YOUNG UNIVERSE
_YOUNG EARTH & SOLAR SYSTEM
_TIAHUANACO (& AMAZON SEA); Flood Solves Mystery of Amazon Sea
_YOUNG OCEANS
_JUST 4 AGES (I previously thought 5)
_ASTEROID BELT FORMATION: REMELTED CRUSTS
DIAGRAM SHOWING TRANSITION FROM SATURN SYSTEM TO JUPITER SYSTEM TO SOLAR SYSTEM
_JP disagrees with Saturn Theory
_PRIMARY SOURCES FOR THE SATURN THEORY
_JP says Primary Sources don't support Saturn Theory
_PRIMARY SOURCES BEFORE **2000 BC
_JP repeats
_SATURN THEORY PRIMARY SOURCES:
SATURN THESIS online; FLARE STAR: THE SATURNIAN SUN; GOD STAR online; SUN AND SATURN online
_THREAD SUMMARY
_ANCIENT EGYPTIAN RITUAL BASED ON SATURN SYSTEM EVENTS: The Opening of The Mouth Ritual
_COMPARING KEN MOSS & CARDONA RE SATURN MODEL:
KEN MOSS: OPENING OF THE MOUTH RITUAL; CARDONA'S LAST BOOK: NEWBORN STAR
34. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=495
_STILL COMPARING KEN MOSS & DWARDU CARDONA RE THE SATURN THEORY
_PIECING TOGETHER A COHERENT SATURN THEORY: Cardona, Moss, Talbott +
_Off Topic & Unimpressive: Lava Tornado
_ORIGIN OF EARTH'S RADIOACTIVITY (+ video); EARTH IS YOUNG (as per radioactive elements)
_OPEN LETTER TO DAVE TALBOTT & OTHER SATURNISTS: Saturn Theory Down to Earth; YD Event Recent; Ancient Myths; Saturn Theory; Great Flood; Sedimentary Rock Record; Great Flood Cataclysms
_JP says Talbott had a stroke; no global evidence for Saturn Theory
_Paladin [& Nick] says Talbott's recovering
_I say JP is highly biased
_MOON & MOHO DURING FLOOD; POLAR COLUMN DEBRIS ON EARTH (in the Arctic)
_JP repeated challenges to prove Biblical El was Saturn and that Saturn was the former Sun
_I replied to JP that he's asking me to do a major research project
REFERENCES RE ILIAD & ODYSSEY IN MEDITERRANEAN OR BALTIC:
Swedes came from Troy in Turkey; Nordic Origins of the Iliad and Odyssey
_NO BIAS; WHY EARLY PLANETARY SYSTEMS ARE LIKELY LINEAR
THE CRITICS' MAIN PROBLEM: POLAR CONFIGURATION?
35. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=510
_(See previous post:) NO BIAS; WHY EARLY PLANETARY SYSTEMS ARE LIKELY LINEAR
ILIAD & ODYSSEY: ODYSSEUS, MAN OR GOD?
MARS & VENUS SIZES IN CONFIGURATION
_Mo said the sizes of planets' magnetospheres (plasmaspheres?) are what to consider in the Configuration
_Ev said Saturn and solar systems are not young; Saturn System was long gone in PT **2350 BC;
Don't focus on exotic elements of Saturn Theory
_Ev said the Iliad is not historical (it's mythical)
_WAS SATURN SYSTEM ON AN ELLIPTICAL ORBIT?
Homer in the Baltic in Aeon 6:2
_JP told Ev to heed Rens' criticisms of polar configuration
_Ev hasn't considered the polar configuration's orbit to be elliptical or spiraling
He asked where Dave said it was at the orbit of Venus
_Ev asked JP to post an ancient Chinese pictograph
_Ev disputes Rens' idea of Sun atop column & said pics+ of Mars in front of Venus shows polar setting
He said the revolving crescent also disproves Rens' idea
_WHERE DAVE SAID THE SATURN SYSTEM WAS POSSIBLY NEAR THE ORBIT OF VENUS:
THE SATURN THESIS - An In-Depth Interview With David Talbott
SATURN SYSTEM BREAKUP **2200 BC?; LIVE DISCUSSION?
_Mo said Mars was between Earth and Venus briefly; their dusty magnetospheres were most prominent
_PRACTICE LIVE DISCUSSION pad.riseup.net/p/B9plRuQSBTyY971HESpe
_THE CRITICS' MAIN PROBLEM: POLAR CONFIGURATION?
36. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=525
_SATURN SYSTEM BREAKUP **WHEN, IF NOT **2300 BC? E.g. Moe Mandelkehr
_Mo said Saturn System is misinterpretation of glow-mode magnetospheres
_Ev said K/T boundary is **dated 66 million BP, not recent; see Eye of Horus paper
_**WHEN DID THE SATURN SYSTEM BREAK UP? **Dating of coal, dinosaur bones etc; Where's PT?
_Ev said dinosaur fossils are found well below human remains; rock art from **30,000 BC shows no dinosaurs
_Ev said Eye of Horus disaster, linked to **time of beginning, or creation, was well before the pyramids / PT1039-1040
_**WHEN DID THE SATURN SYSTEM BREAK UP? Part 2: NO HUMAN REMAINS WITH DINOSAUR REMANS?
EVIDENCE FOR TWO MAJOR CATACLYSMS (**3000 & 2300 BC);
(zircons and argon); Cardona 2 cataclysms **time-reversed; iridium spikes; PYRAMID TEXT QUOTE RE CREATION
_Ev said my sources are bogus; cave drawings are **20 to 30,000 years old
_C14 **DATING UNRELIABLE; **TIME OF THE ATEN? (ref. Charles)
_Ev likes STUDY OF HORUS THE BEHDETITE from Charles
_**TIME OF SATURN CONFIGURATION BREAKUP (ref. other thread)
_THREAD VIEWS; LOOKING FOR **DATE THE SATURN SYSTEM BROKE UP; BRONZE AGE: HOMER NOT IN THE BALTIC
_WESTERN N. AMERICAN SEDIMENT ORIGINS IN EASTERN N. AMERICA (OR EAST OF AFRICA?); THINKING ABOUT SEDIMENT ORIGINS
_HEIGHT & VELOCITY OF SOME FLOOD WAVES; SOME MAINSTREAM INFO ON SEDIMENT ORIGINS; HOW DELICATE FOSSILS FORMED
_PANGAEA BROKE UP AFTER, NOT DURING(?), THE GREAT FLOOD: MEGAFAUNA STRATA; CHICXULUB CRATER; SHOCK HARDENED FLOOD SEDIMENTS;
1. SEDIMENTARY BASINS, 2. THE GRAND CANYON, 3. RADIOACTIVITY; SHOCK DYNAMICS EVENT = YOUNGER DRYAS EVENT[?]
37. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=540
_previous post; SUMMARY OF THE NEWGEOLOGY EARTH HISTORY **TIMELINE: CAUSE OF THE GREAT FLOOD; YOUNGER DRYAS EVENT ON HIS **TIMELINE
_COMPARING CREATIONIST FLOOD MODELS
_CATASTROPHISM DISCUSSION WITH MIKE OF NEWGEOLOGY.US: TORRENTIAL RAINFALL LED TO GREAT FLOOD ON LOWLAND PANGAEA;
FORMATION OF SEDIMENTARY ROCK; GRAND CANYON FORMATION; TIDAL WAVES; COMPARING 2 CREATIONIST FLOOD MODELS; MY COMMENT
_NATURAL DAM BREACH CAUSED GRAND CANYON FORMATION; Remembering Spillover Erosion of Grand Canyon: Where Are the Lake Deposits?
Ancient Colorado River Delta; The Dam Breach or Spillover Location; Plateaus Tilted; The Lake Is Called Hopi Lake; Ice Age;
MY COMMENT ON ICE AGE
_MAPS OF SEDIMENTARY ROCK STRATA MEGASEQUENCES: (CHRONOMETER?):
Use of Sedimentary Megasequences to Re-create Pre-Flood Geography
_JP said to RLC circuit theory formed Grand Canyon?
_FLOODING VS EDM
_LITHIFICATION CEMENTS, POST-FLOOD CATACLYSMS, YOUNGER DRYAS, NO MOON
_SEEKING THE **TIME OF THE SATURN SYSTEM BREAKUP: **TIME OF THE VENUS COMET; MAPS OF SEDIMENTARY ROCK STRATA MEGASEQUENCES
_2 PLATE TECTONICS MODELS VS SHOCK DYNAMICS (ASTEROID IMPACT)
_JP: Global flood cannot result in specific fractal geometries of mountain ranges, nor can impacts; Examples
_JP: Provide any plate tectonics experiments that result in fractal Lichtenberg figures
_WATER EROSION IS FRACTAL TOO; Demonstration of how tectonic plates can fold at their boundaries
_WHY RETHINK CARDONA'S **TIMELINE; OBJECTIVE, NON-CREATIONIST ARGUMENTS FOR REDUCING THE AGES OF THE GEOLOGIC COLUMN
_**TIME OF SATURN'S DEPARTURE; THE ONSLAUGHT OF ICE; EARTH'S SHIFTING AXIS; SATURN'S DEPARTURE
38. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=555
_SATURN SYSTEM BREAKUP **2400 BC?
_**DATE OF SATURN'S DEPARTURE: CLUES FROM FISCHER'S MODEL VS. CATASTROPHISM.COM: RE FISHCER'S MODEL; RE CATASTROPHISM.COM (CARDONA, STRICKLING, TALBOTT)
_SEARCHES RELATING TO MIKE FISCHER'S & EV COCHRANE'S MODELS; WARM ANCIENT ARCTIC; ANCIENT ADVANCED TECH
_PREVIOUS CATACLYSM **DATES from previous thread, Evidence of Ancient Global Cataclysm
_CATACLYSM **DATES & SOME ANALYSIS: An Analysis of the Dodwell Hypothesis; Surprise Witness: What Really Happened During the Flood; FOUR EVENTS (global cataclysms)
_**DATE OF GREAT FLOOD IN THE GREAT PYRAMID: **DATE OF THE GREAT FLOOD; MYTHS OF GOOD & EVIL; CALENDAR CLUES TO THE AGE OF THE GREAT PYRAMID
_SATURN DID GIVE WAY TO JUPITER: MALE GODS
_continued
_Continued
_CAVE & LABYRINTH MYTHS REF ARRIVAL OF JUPITER; EARTH'S RADIOACTIVITY FROM CATACLYSMS
_MILES MATHIS' VS DAVE TALBOTT'S SATURN THEORY; MAGNETIC FIELD REVERSALS; **DATING THE REVERSALS; ASTEROID IMPACT ON PANGAEA, SUBDUCTION ETC
_2016 DISCUSSIONS FROM HERE ON **DATING THE CATACLYSMS
_SOME MORE CATACLYSM **DATING CLUES FROM 2016: BRONZE AGE COLLAPSE; IRAQ METEORITE IMPACT CATASTROPHE; LBA COLLAPSE, VENUS, MARS; BRONZE AGE & VENUS COMET; SWASTIKA ON ROTATING COMET VENUS; MARS METEORITES; BRONZE AGE BATTLE
_TENTATIVE NEW CATACLYSMIC **TIMELINE; EDITING LAST TWO POSTS: PROPOSED C14 CATACLYSM **DATING CORRELATIONS; PLANETS INVOLVED IN LBA COLLAPSE; **1195 BC DESTRUCTON OF UGARIT; BRONZE AGE & VENUS COMET; CAUSE OF CROSS/SWASTIKA ON COMET VENUS; MARS METEORITES ON EARTH
_SATURN NOVA "ICE AGE"?: MAMMOTHS & CLIMATE CHANGE CATACLYSMS; FLOODED ICE SHEET; FLASH FREEZING OF THE ARCTIC; ANCIENT ADVANCED TECH
39. www.thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13&start=570
_CAUSE OF SEAFLOOR MAGNETIC STRIPES; NO POLE SHIFTS; YD IMPACTOR, NOT SATURN NOVA, CAUSED ARCTIC FLASH FREEZING: CONFLAGRATION; RELATIVE TIMING
_NEW YOUNGER DRYAS COMET MODEL ONLINE
_REVIEWING MY LATEST READS: HOW ANIMALS FLASH FROZE FROM YD IMPACTS; EMPTY OCEAN BASINS AND THE YD SNOWBALL COMET; AZORES UNDERWATER PYRAMID; ATLANTIS CANALS; ALSO INTERESTING: YD Baffin Island; More Women after YD
_CHECKING MY RECENT CATACLYSMS TIMELINE FOR ATLANTIS THEORY
_NOT ATLANTIS CANALS; BUT THE OCEAN LEVELS WERE NONETHELESS VERY LOW A FEW THOUSAND YEARS AGO IMO
_SEA LEVEL CHANGES: WIKIPEDIA: PAST SEA LEVEL; [QUOTING FROM CARDONA'S BOOKS]; [PETROLEUM]; [SATURN FLARES]; [SEA LEVEL FLUCTUATIONS]; [SEA FLOOR OPENINGS]; [SOME FORMER SEA LEVELS]; [SUDDEN SEA LEVEL CHANGES]; [GORDON WILLIAMS ARTICLES]; [EARTH'S ROTATION STOPPED]; [POLAR COLUMN VORTEX]; [EARTH'S AXIS TILTED]; REVIEWS: Our Tilted Earth by Gordon Williams; PS, RE: NOT ATLANTIS CANALS
_TIAHUANACO UPLIFTED FROM SEA LEVEL, PUZZLE SOLVED
_TWO FLOODS
_CAUSES & CATACLYSMIC EFFECTS OF CHANGES IN EARTH'S ROTATIONAL VELOCITY: SATURN FLARES & VOLCANISM; TSUNAMIS, HEATING & PLAGUES; DEGLACIATION; FOSSILS
_THE GREAT CATACLYSMS: & COMMENTARY
_ADDITIONAL CATACLYSMIC EVENTS
_TENTATIVE PLACEMENTS OF THE ADDITIONAL CATACLYSMIC EVENTS
_YOUNGER DRYAS IMPACT LAYER: [YD IMPACTS KILLED OFF NEARLY ALL ANIMALS AND PEOPLE IN NORTH AMERICA]; [ICE SHEET IMPACT EVIDENCE]; [EVIDENCE OF INTENSE FIRES]; [MORE ICE SHEET IMPACT EVIDENCE]; [RELATION TO LUNAR IMPACTS]; [CAUSE OF FIRES]; [BLACK MAT IS ALGAE]; [MORE ON THE ICE SHEET]; [YD IMPACTOR/S & CRATERS]; [NOVA DIAMONDS]; [MOON WAS NOT FAR AWAY]; [SATURN NOVA SOURCE]; [CARBON 14 DATING PROBLEM]
_YOUNGER DRYAS FLARES OR NOVAS; [SATURN FLARES REASONING]; [BROWN DWARF, NOT SUPERNOVA]; [CAUSE OF FLARES]; [FLARE RADIATION]; [CYCLIC FLARING]; [NOVA FLARES TO RINGS]; [CYCLIC FLARING]; [FLARING INTENSITY]; [DINOSAUR KILLING ASTEROID, NOT SUPERNOVA]; [TIMING OF IMPACTS]; [FLARES AND GEOLOGICAL UPHEAVALS]; [NOVA DUST]; [ICE CORE DUST]; [NORTH POLE SOURCE]; [IMPACTS]; [FLARE RADIATION]; [SATURN'S FORMER SIZE]; [YD COSMIC DUST]; [FORMER FLARING ACTIVITY]; [SPIRALING SATURN EMISSION]; [DATING THE SATURN EMISSION]; [FROM SPIRAL TO RINGS]
_SATURN NOVA DEBRIS ON EARTH?: [IMPACTS, IRIDIUM LAYERS & EXTINCTIONS -- CARDONA GAVE CREDENCE TO CONVENTIONAL DATING, PERHAPS, BUT THE FACT THAT SORTED STRATA CAN ONLY FORM IN MAJOR FLOODING INDICATES THAT ALL OF THE EXTINCTIONS & LAYERS OCCURRED DURING ONE OR MORE GREAT FLOODS OVER SHORT TIME PERIODS - LK]; [AXIS TILT, OR WOBBLE]; [CHICXULUB IMPACT AT YOUNGER DRYAS?]
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_SUMMARY OF PREVIOUS POST: HIGH PERCENTAGE OF IRIDIUM IN 7 MAJOR SEDIMENTARY ROCK BOUNDARIES ASSOCIATED WITH EXTINCTIONS; LIKELY IRIDIUM SOURCE
_IRIDIUM SEEMS TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH IMPACTS AND VOLCANOES BOTH - WHAT ABOUT SATURN?: IRIDIUM IN THE ASH OF KAMCHATKAN VOLCANOES
_SUNKEN CITY BY CUBA, NOT?
_MESSING AROUND A BIT: ECHOES OF ANCIENT CATACLYSMS IN THE BALTIC SEA [REGION]
_MESSING AROUND A BIT: Ancient Cataclysms: 9 Catastrophes That Rocked the World; ECHOES OF ANCIENT CATACLYSMS IN THE BALTIC SEA [REGION]; GIANTS IN MYTHS
_LINK FIXED; SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF: ECHOES OF ANCIENT CATACLYSMS IN THE BALTIC SEA: CREATION-MYTHS IN THE PERIGLACIAL ENVIRONMENT; THE CRASH OF THE SUN; FLYING REPTILES AND AMPHIBIANS; HOT SNOW AND THUNDER ROCKS
_HALLOWEEN, CLUBE & NAPIER'S COSMIC WINTER, COMET ENCKE, CONFLAGRATION, TAURID METEOR STREAM, TUNGUSKA
_RANDALL CARLSON'S VIDEOS ON ORIGIN OF HALLOWEEN FROM YEARLY CATACLYSMIC IMPACTS: YOUNGER DRYAS GREAT FLOOD, TAURID METEOR STREAM & HALLOWEEN; ORBITS [i.e. of Saturn System]
_THE PYRAMIDS WERE BUILT HOW LONG AFTER THE GREAT FLOOD?: ALMOST UNEDITED SEARCHES ON BABEL; [ELECTRICAL EFFECTS ON HUMAN MINDS DURING CATACLYSMS]; [OTHER ELECTRICAL EFFECTS]; [BABEL CAME AFTER THE GREAT FLOOD]; [POSSIBLE DATING OF THE BABEL CATACLYSM & SATURN SYSTEM BREAKUP]; [NIMROD = NARMER = FIRST KING, ORION & PLEIADES]; [YES, SATURN EXPLODED TWICE, MAYBE]; [SATURN FROM SATURDAY TO SUNDAY]; [BABEL = DISPERSAL OF GODS AFTER DEATH OF OSIRIS/SATURN]
_BABEL YESTERDAY; CHICXULUB TODAY: MORE ON CHICXULUB CRATER; [MELTROCK MILES DEEP?]; [DATING]
_VIDEO CHANNEL HELP
_SATURN SYSTEM BROKE UP IN THE ASTEROID BELT: [EVIDENCE THAT THE SATURN SYSTEM CAME FROM BEYOND THE ASTEROID BELT]; [THE SATURN CRESCENT FIRST APPEARED AT END OF TIMELESS ERA]; THEREFORE, JUPITER REPLACED SATURN AT THE ASTEROID BELT; WHERE WE WERE IN SPACE DURING EACH CATACLYSM
_YOUNGER DRYAS COMET & FLOOD: [EVIDENCE THAT THE YOUNGER DRYAS EVENT WAS ABOUT 4,000 TO 5,000 YEARS AGO]; [GOBEKLI TEPE, OLMEC & MESOPOTAMIAN HANDBAGS ETC PROVE SAME TIME PERIOD]; [YOUNGER DRYAS COMET & FLOOD]
_MY LATEST MAJOR FINDINGS: [YOUNGER DRYAS FLOOD]; [LARGE COMET IMPACTS PARTLY ON ICE SHEET CAUSED FLOOD]; [COMET IMPACTS ALSO CAUSED CONFLAGRATION & COOLING]; [COMET IMPACTS STARTED & ENDED YOUNGER DRYAS ICE AGE]; [WERE OBJECTS FROM TAURID METEOR STREAM CAUSED BY SATURN SYSTEM BREAKUP?]
_CHICXULUB, YOUNGER DRYAS, GOBEKLI TEPE & SPOKANE FLOOD 4 TO 5 THOUSAND YEARS AGO: [CONVENTIONAL DATING LEAVES BIG GAP IN HUMAN HISTORY, INDICATING FLAWED DATING]; [HUNTER-GATHERERS DON'T HAVE TIME OR COMPETENCE FOR HUGE BUILDING PROJECTS]; [GOBEKLI TEPE ASSOCIATED WITH YOUNGER DRYAS COMET/S]; [LIKELY CAUSE/S OF O-ISOTOPE RATIO FLUCTUATIONS IN ICE CORES, SEA CORES ETC, TO IMPROVE DATING]; [ICE CORES FORMED INITIALLY FROM HEAVY SNOW STORMS FOLLOWING CATACLYSMS]
Post by Admin on Jan 7, 2022 at 3:31pm
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_WATER GAPS FORMED DURING THE YOUNGER DRYAS FLOOD, NOT DURING THE GREAT FLOOD: [WATER GAPS FROM THE YOUNGER DRYAS FLOODS]; HODGE-PODGE: [ADVANCED ANCIENT TECHNOLOGY];
[CAN SATURN THEORY EXPLAIN THESE SIMILARITIES?]; [EARTH'S AXIS TILTED?]; [INANNA FIGURINES IN EUROPE?]
_[SPHINXES]; [WHY THE ANCIENTS BUILT HUGE BUILDINGS & MONUMENTS]; [PINECONES IN MYTHS = VENUS?]; [PINECONES & HANDBAGS/BUCKETS]; FOSSILS IN METAMORPHIC ROCK; SURVIVING METAMORPHISM: TAPHONOMY OF FOSSIL ASSEMBLAGES IN MARBLE AND CALC-SILICATE SCHIST
_VENUS COMETARY DEBRIS TO SATURN'S RINGS?; SATURN'S RINGS & ITS HOUSE; [NOVA FLARES TO RINGS]; [SPIRALING SATURN EMISSION]; [DATING THE SATURN EMISSION]; [FROM SPIRAL TO RINGS]; OUROBOROS; THE CREATRIX; THE SERPENTINE GODDESS
_VENUS' TAIL BECAME SATURN'S RINGS, I GUESS; [VENUS' TAIL FORMED A BAND, WHICH BECAME 7 RINGS]; [VENUS' BAND AS FACES OF GOD/SATURN]
_HOPING TO FIND CONNECTIONS BETWEEN MYTHS & CATACLYSMS ON EARTH: Compare Opening of the Mouth Ritual with The Mythical History of the Comet Venus [for TIMELINE]
_CARDONA'S 1988 ELABORATION OF HIS & TALBOTT'S THEN VIEWS ON THE EVOLUTION OF THE SATURN SYSTEM; [DIM LONE SATURN IN AGE OF DARKNESS]; [NORTH POLAR SATURN]; [IDEAL CLIMATE]; [UNIMPRESSIVE SATURN]; [SATURN FLARE]; [BLACK MASS ATTACKED SATURN]; [SUNLIGHT FIRST APPEARED]; [SATURN LIGHT OBSCURED STARS]; [ICE DEBRIS FILAMENTS & RINGS FORMED]; [LIGHT/SHADE CRESCENT/S APPEARED ON THE RINGS]; [9 SATURN MOONS WERE VISIBLE]; [BRIGHT CROSS-SHAPE APPEARED ON SATURN]; [POLAR COLUMN CONNECTED EARTH & SATURN]; [POLAR COLUMN STOOD ATOP A GREAT MOUNTAIN ON EARTH]; [BLINKING LIGHTS APPEARED BY SATURN]; [SATURN CONFIGURATION LOOKED LIKE A GIANT HUMAN]; [GOLDEN AGE]; [ORBITING ICE FILAMENTS CAUSED FLOOD ON EARTH]; [EARTH TURNED OVER]; [EARTH RESTABILIZED]; [BLOTCHES FORMED ON SATURN]; [POLAR COLUMN SEVERED]; [SATURN DEPARTED]; [TALBOTT'S MODEL]; [DIFFERENCES BETWEEN 2 MODELS]; [WORLD MOUNTAIN]; [MARS & POLAR COLUMN]; [POLAR COLUMN TORNADO]; [MARS IN POLAR COLUMN CAUSED FLOOD]; [JUPITER WAS BEHIND SATURN OR BELOW EARTH]; [MORE ON TALBOTT'S MODEL]; [DATE OF SATURN SYSTEM]; [BENT POLAR COLUMN]; [TORNADO & RINGS]; [SATURN DEVOURED MOONS]; [FLARE MATERIAL OBSCURED SATURN & FORMED RINGS]; [JUPITER APPEARED AS SATURN LEFT]; [FLARE]; [JUPITER APPEARED AS EARTH TURNED OVER]; [SATURN & JUPITER FORMED RINGS]; [FLOOD WAS IN HEAVEN]; [SATURN'S RESURRECTION]; [FINAL DESTRUCTION]; [CONFUSION BETWEEN DESTRUCTIONS]
_REPHRASING PREVIOUS POST'S INFO ON EVOLUTION OF THE SATURN SYSTEM - PART 1: AGE OF DARKNESS; THE GOLDEN AGE;
_CATASTROPHISM.COM EXCERPTS ON VENUS COMET ETC: [NORSE MIDGARD SERPENT WAS COMET VENUS]; [VENUS PULLED ATMOSPHERE FROM MARS]; [STREAM OF MATERIAL BETWEEN MARS & EARTH; VENUS TAIL]; [VENUS' TURQUOISE STREAM OF DUST]; [BROWN DWARF SATURN ICE MOONS]; [SATURN'S ORIGIN; SATURN LOOKED LARGER THAN THE MOON DOES NOW]; [COMETS & SWARMS OF ORGANISMS - WAS THERE A CONNECTION?]
_NOVAS & COMETS CAUSED RADIOACTIVITY & PERMAFROST, I GATHER: [WERE NOVAS THE SOURCE OF RADIOACTIVITY IN EARTH'S CRUST?]; [DID NOVAS OR COMETS FREEZE THE ARCTIC IN PERMAFROST?]; DEEP DEPRESSIONS
_DID MARS CAUSE THE GREAT FLOOD?
_CREATIONIST ERROR: ONLY ONE CATACLYSM, THE FLOOD: I'd like to critique; [EVIDENCE THAT THE YOUNGER DRYAS EVENT WAS ABOUT 4,000 TO 5,000 YEARS AGO]; [ICE AGE MEGAFLOODS WERE CAUSED BY YOUNGER DRYAS IMPACTS]; [YOUNGER DRYAS WAS BRIEF]; [BETTER DATING OF ICE CORES]
_TITANS: [EARTH TOPPLED]; [HELIOS = SATURN]; [SATURN VS. JUPITER]; RECONSTRUCTING THE SATURN MYTH; [CELESTIAL UPHEAVAL]; CLASHING MAGNETIC FIELDS
_OROGENY, I.E. MOUNTAIN BUILDING: [MAGNETICALLY REVERSED VASE & TIAHUANACO]; [EARTH'S FIELD DIDN'T CAUSE MAGNETIC REVERSALS?]; [MOUNTAINS FORMED RECENTLY]; [HOLOCENE OROGENY]; [RECENT OROGENY & CATACLYSMS]; [CATASTROPHIC GRADUALIST OROGENY]; [MAYA RECORD]; [LARGE METEORITES CAUSED OROGENY ETC]; [METEORIC IMPACT EFFECTS]; [COSMIC SERPENT, IMPACTS, OROGENY, RAPID CONTINENTAL DRIFT]; [ANTARCTIC FOSSILS SHOW RAPID OROGENY]; [SOME MOUNTAINS FORMED RECENTLY]; [RAPID MOUNTAIN BUILDING VS. GLACIAL TRANSPORT]; [CENOZOIC OROGENY CAUSED ICE SHEETS]; [RECENT OROGENY]; [CATASTROPHIC OROGENY]; [TIDAL PULL ON MOHO LAVA]; [WATER EXPANSION FORMED MOUNTAINS]; [TWO GRAVITY THEORY]; [PARALLEL MOUNTAIN RANGES]; [HISTORY OF OROGENY THEORIES]; [EARTHQUAKES TAPER OFF AFTER OROGENY]; [FORMER MOONS BUILT MOUNTAINS]; [CAUSED BY HUGE ICE CAPS]
_SEMIGLOBAL SEDIMENTARY ROCK MEGASEQUENCES: SEDIMENTARY ROCK FORMATION; HUDSON BAY FORMED BEFORE THE FLOOD; GULF OF MEXICO FORMED DURING OR AFTER THE FLOOD; PANGAEA WAS 2 LARGE ISLANDS?
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_SEARCH FOR "SEQUENCE" IN CARDONA'S BOOKS: [CENTURIES/MILLENNIA-LONG SATURN POLAR COLUMN]; [POLAR COLUMN: PLASMA JET]; [DRAGON: VENUS' COMETARY TAIL]; REMEMBER: [BLACK MASS ATTACKED SATURN]; [CARDONA'S SEQUENCE]; [THE SUN WAS MORE DISTANT]; [CAUSE OF SATURN FLARES]; [PANGAEA BREAKUP]; [SATURN GAVE BIRTH TO VENUS]; [ICE AGE]; [DURATION OF PLASMA INSTABILITIES {polar column?} IN ROCK ART]; [RETRACTION OF THE POLAR COLUMN {PHALLUS}]
_HOW MY EARTH HISTORY TIMELINE HAS CHANGED SINCE I STARTED THIS THREAD; WAS ZUNI OR TEJAS MEGASEQUENCE LONG AFTER THE GREAT FLOOD?
_ONLINE BOOK COMING?: DISASTER-PRONE PLANET
_SEARCH ON ARCTIC IN CARDONA'S BOOKS: [ARCTIC OCEAN = SATURNIAN SEA] GOD STAR; [ARCTIC VORTEX - POLAR COLUMN] WHIRL OF CREATION; [SATURN'S RED LIGHT]; [WARM-LOVING PLANT & ANIMAL FOSSILS {in Arctic}]; [FOSSIL TREE RINGS]; [CORAL RINGS]; [FORMER MAGNETIC POLES]; [POLAR COLUMN DEBRIS]; THE ARCTIC DEPRESSION [SEDIMENT]; [HUMAN SETTLEMENT]
_[FORMER ENGLISH CHANNEL LAND BRIDGE]; [WARM EARLY ICE AGE CLIMATE]; [WHY MIGRATION OCCURRED EARLY IN THE ICE AGE]; [ICE CORES ARE YOUNG]
_MORE SEARCH RESULTS ON ARCTIC IN CARDONA'S BOOKS: FLARE STAR [WARM ARCTIC]; [SUDDEN FREEZING OF SIBERIA]; [ICE CAPS AFTER ICE AGE]; THE ICE-FREE ARCTIC [& MID-LATITUDE ICE SHEET]; THE BOREAL CRADLE; [HUMAN] ARCTIC SURVIVAL; ANCIENT MAN IN ARCTIC REGIONS [NOT IN ICE SHEET REGIONS]; THE MYTHO-HISTORICAL CONNECTION; [RAPID ICE SHEET] MELTDOWN; [ICE SHEET NOT RELATED TO POLAR ICE CAPS]; [GREAT CANADIAN LAKE AGASSIZ]; [RISING LANDS]; [MAMMOTHS OUTLIVED THE ICE AGE]; [MASSIVE UNDERWATER LANDSLIDE]; [GLOBAL CLIMATIC SHIFT DUE TO SATURN NOVA]; [DURATION OF THE STONE AGE]
_3100BC AUSTRIA IMPACT: PRO & CON
_MORE SEARCH RESULTS FOR ARCTIC IN CARDONA'S BOOKS: METAMORPHIC STAR [CAUSE OF FORMERLY WARM ARCTIC]; [FOSSILS INDICATING FORMERLY WARM ARCTIC]; [WE'RE IN TWO GALAXIES]; [GLOBAL IMPACTS LIKE CAROLINA BAYS]; [REMAINS OF SATURN'S NOVA ON SATURN]
_ICE IMPACT CRATERS IN S. GEORGIA, US; TWO ICE SHEET IMPACTS; ICE SHEET IMPACTS MILLENNIA APART? NOPE
_MORE SEARCHES ON ARCTIC FROM CARDONA'S BOOKS: PRIMORDIAL STAR [ANCIENT BROWN DWARF SATURN'S HEAT & DISTANCE]; [ARCTIC ORIGIN OF LIFE]; [NUCLEAR WINTERS AFTER IMPACTS?]; [UNFOSSILIZED DINOSAUR BONES]; [WARM ARCTIC]; [SAME LATITUDE as now?]; [ARCTIC DINOSAUR SITES]; [FLOOD KILLED DINOSAURS]; [ARCTIC & ANTARCTIC DINOSAURS & DIM LIGHT ADAPTATION]; [POLAR COLUMN, FLOOD, FLARE & ICE AGE]; [ARCTIC HUMANS]; [GREENLAND WAS WARM]; [DENSER PREFLOOD ATMOSPHERE]; [ARCTIC OCEAN BASIN FLOOD & TECTONICS]; [ICE AGE CIRCLE]; [WARM ANTARCTIC & NAPHTHA]; [SATURN'S FLUCTUATING WARMTH]; [ARCTIC PRECIOUS STONES]
_FINAL SEARCH ON ARCTIC IN CARDONA'S BOOKS: NEWBORN STAR [ARCTIC PEOPLE'S BELIEFS]; [WARM ARCTIC, WARM WORLD]; [ANTARCTIC DINOSAURS]; [ARCTIC BIOLOGICAL CLOCKS]; [AURORAL ICE AGE]; [SHRINKING ANIMALS]; [FORMER ARCTIC CONTINENT]; MAN'S ARCTIC HOMELAND; [EVOLVED ROCK ART]; [DNA ARCTIC ORIGIN]; [SATURNIAN ROCK ART]
_ANCIENT SATURN COLORS FROM CARDONA'S BOOKS: GOD STAR [RED & GREEN SUNS IN EGYPT]; [SATURN WAS RED AT FIRST]; [BROWN DWARF BRIGHTENING]; [BROWN DWARF PLANETARY SYSTEMS ARE KNOWN]; FLARE STAR; METAMORPHIC STAR [DARK SUN, SATURN]; [SATURN'S CHANGING COLORS]; [BLUEGREEN SATURN]
_MORE GREEN & RED FROM CARDONA'S BOOKS: PRIMORDIAL STAR [EVIDENCE FOR SATURN'S ORIGINAL RED COLOR]; [ASTRONOMY'S FALSE COLORS]; [VENUS COMET WAS GREEN?]; NEWBORN STAR [RED VENUS RING AROUND RULERS?]; THE RITES OF BINDING; [GREEN VENUS?]; THE [GREEN] NAMELESS ONE; [RED VENUS]; [VENUS' ORIGINAL RED GLOW]; INTERESTING VIDEO RE ADVANCED ANCIENT TECH
_MORE ON ANCIENT MEGALITHIC TECH
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_WATER IN SATURN'S RINGS IS LIKE EARTH'S WATER
_YOUNG CONTINENTS Best Evidence
_ESKERS SHOW WHERE THE ICE SHEET WAS: ESKERS; SCANDINAVIAN ESKERS; IRISH ESKERS; NORTH AMERICAN ESKERS; [NO ANTARCTIC ESKERS]; QUESTIONS: 1. ICE SHEETS CONNECTION? 2. WHY DID ESKERS FORM ONLY UNDER THE NORTHERN ICE SHEET? 3. WHY IS THERE NO MUD IN THE ARCTIC? 4. WAS THE COLORADO PLATEAU COVERED BY THE ICE SHEET? TUNNEL VALLEYS; TILL
_GREAT FLOOD TILLITES, NOT USUALLY GLACIAL
_MAMMOTHS & ICE SHEET WERE MORE RECENT; TUNNEL VALLEYS FROM FLOODS?
_SOTT COMET VENUS MODEL: 1. Origins of the 30,000-year-old Venus of Willendorf solved; The Berekhat Ram "Venus"; The Many Faces Of Venus; 2. The Seven Destructive Earth Passes of Comet Venus; Volcanoes, Earthquakes And The [false] 3,600 Year Comet Cycle; 3. Did Earth 'Steal' Martian Water? 4. Of Flash Frozen Mammoths and Cosmic Catastrophes
_SOTT COMET VENUS MODEL (Continued): [ICE CORE SO4 SPIKE]; [COMETARY VS VOLCANIC EVENTS]; [IMPACTS AT YOUNGER DRYAS]; [1808 COMETARY SO4 SPIKE]; [COMETARY ELECTRIC EFFECTS]; [(NO) 3,600 YEAR COMETARY CYCLE]
_WEB SEARCH ON ANCIENT IMPACTS; COMETS & PLAGUES; SATURN CONFIGURATION TO RELIGION
_THE TRANSITORY SATURN SYSTEM (EARLY WANDERING); ROOFED ROOMS, NOT HANDBAGS; FOSSILS & METALS AGAIN
_Military Tank Turn to Stone [not]
_ZEALANDIA ON PANGAEA: SATURN TIDAL FORCES POSSIBLY RAISED PANGAEA; PANGAEA AREA & CIVILIZATION
_FORMATION OF PANGAEA
_CAROLINA BAYS IN EUROPE TOO BEFORE PANGAEA BREAKUP: Carolina Bays and The Michigan Basin; Researchers Reveal Origin of Giant Craters in the Barents Sea [time of YDI]
_My New Facebook Group
_MY EARTH HISTORY CATACLYSMS TIMELINE & QUESTIONS; VIDEO CHANNEL PLAN
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_GIANT RIPPLES EVIDENCE OF THE GREAT FLOOD; WIDESPREAD YD IMPACT LOCATIONS; YOUNGER DRYAS MEGAFLOODS WORLDWIDE; MARS FLOODS AT YOUNGER DRYAS?
_EARTH HISTORY FOR NEWBIES: EARTH ORIGIN - SATURN THEORY +THREAD INDEX
_MEGALITHIC BUILDING METHODS BEFORE PANGAEA BREAKUP +GREAT PYRAMID WAS FLOODED BY SEAWATER +THE GREAT PYRAMID AS AN ELECTRICAL GENERATOR? +POLYGONAL MASONRY
_EGYPT & TIAHUANACO ON PANGAEA
_ANCIENT STRUCTURES WITH EVIDENCE OF CATACLYSMS +Conservation of Cuneiform Tablets +Graffiti in the Temples of Ancient Egypt +From the Tomb of Nefertari +Salt-weathering in Petra, Jordan +Cataclysm At Megalithic Sites In Peru +Cataclysm of Easter Island +Mediterranean iridium circle +Cataclysms and the Megalithic Response
_TOWER OF BABEL, SATURN'S POLAR COLUMN
_HIGHLIGHTS OF 2001 SATURN THEORY ARTICLE +[ETHIOPIA WORLD MOUNTAIN] +[ETHIOPIA EDEN] +[ATMOSPHERIC TIDES] +[COLD CLIMATE MEGAFAUNA] +[EARTH HABITABLE ZONE] +[HUMAN ORIGINS] +[AGE OF DARKNESS] +[GOLDEN AGE GENERATIONS UNDER CONSTANT LIGHT] +[CELESTIAL EDEN] +[ADAM & EVE, MARS & VENUS] +[RIVERS OF EDEN] +[PANGAEA] +[SATURN SYSTEM DURATION] +[FORMERLY WARM ARCTIC] +[SATURN RED LIGHT PHOTOSYNTHESIS] +[SATURN SIZE CHANGE] +[MARS CLIMATE] +[AGE OF DINOSAURS] +CHRONOLOGY
_WHEN THE MID-ATLANTIC RIDGE WAS ABOVE SEA LEVEL
_CORRECTING SATURNISTS' MAIN ERRORS +VELIKOVSKY'S ERRORS +SATURNIST ERRORS +SEDIMENTARY STRATA FROM A GREAT FLOOD +RECENTNESS OF CATACLYSMS +TWO GREAT FLOODS, TWO OR MORE SATURN FLARE-UPS +PANGAEA WAS RECENT & NOT IN THE ARCTIC +CAUSE OF SATURN FLARES
_ADDING EVERYTHING UP +SATURN TRAIN: Ancient Saturn Dwarf Star system +4,000-0 BC
_GLEANINGS FROM CARDONA'S 1988 ESSAY +[VELA SUPERNOVA WAS FIRST THOUGHT TO BE THE RETURN OF SATURN] +[JUPITER WARMED EARTH'S SOUTH POLE?] +[SATURN'S CIRCUMSTELLAR DISK OBSCURED STARS] +[THE GOLDEN AGE BEGAN AFTER SATURN'S FLARE-UP] +[DIFFERENT LIGHT IN THE PRIOR AGE OF DARKNESS] +[SATURN SYSTEM BUBBLE] +[CLOTHING & COLOR CHANGE AFTER SATURN FLARE-UP] +[BEARDED VENUS COMET ON SATURN'S BAND]
_CARDONA'S ARCTIC ERROR +DINOSAURS IN WEAKER GRAVITY BEFORE THE GREAT FLOOD +MEGAFAUNA DIED ON PANGAEA BEFORE NORTHERN CONTINENTS MOVED INTO THE ARCTIC +EARLY CIVILIZATION CONTEMPORARY WITH MEGAFAUNA +QUESTIONS
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_ALMOST NO EROSION BETWEEN MEGASEQUENCES +SEDIMENTARY ROCK STRATA MEGASEQUENCES MAPS OF THE AMERICAS & AFRICA
_RETHINKING OUT LOUD +GREAT FLOOD DEPOSITED MEGASEQUENCES +GREAT BASINS +GREAT ICE SHEET +FOUR GRAND CANYONS +YOUNGER DRYAS EVENT +HUMAN INVOLVEMENT
_WHICH STRATA BELONG TO WHICH MEGASEQUENCE +CREATIONIST ARTICLE HAS POSSIBLE EVIDENCE THAT PANGAEA BROKE UP CENTURIES AFTER THE GREAT FLOOD +[MSEQ's ARE THICKEST NEAR EDGES OF CONTINENTS] +[ZUNI MSEQ WAS THE HIGH WATER MARK OF THE FLOOD] +[TEJAS IS ERODED DEPOSITS FROM ZUNI; COAL, MAMMALS, HUMANS] +[TEJAS DEPOSITIONAL DIFFERENCES] +[FLOOD WATER FLOW NORTHWARD] +[TEJAS WATER FLOW SOUTHWARD] +[TEJAS SEA LEVEL DROP] +[LACK OF HUMAN FOSSILS] +[MASSIVE TEJAS IN SOUTH AMERICA & MOUNTAIN RANGES UPLIFT] +[TEJAS GAPS IN MOUNTAIN RANGES]
_QUESTIONS FOR MIKE & OTHERS +MEGASEQUENCE MAPS +WHEN IMPACT BASINS FORMED +WHEN THE ATLANTIC & INDIAN OCEANS FORMED +CHANGE IN FLOOD WATER FLOW DIRECTIONS +TEJAS STRATA +P.S. PANGAEA BREAKUP
_BACK TO A BEGINNING OF THIS RESEARCH +CITY 6,000 FEET UNDER THE SEA +JONATHAN GRAY'S ONLINE BOOKS
_MORE COMMENTS ON SOME OF JONATHAN GRAY'S BOOKLETS +64 SECRETS STILL AHEAD OF US +SPEED OF LIGHT OVERTURNS DATING
_DATING EARTH WOBBLES {via Monuments}
_ANCIENT CANOPY OVER THE ATMOSPHERE +[LIFEFORMS WERE BIGGER] +ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURE PROMOTED RAPID HEALING +CANOPY WOULD PROMOTE SUCH ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURE +EFFECT OF A CANOPY ON THE ATMOSPHERE
_EARTH'S PRE-FLOOD CANOPY OR NOT? +Noah’s Flood — Where did the water come from? +GLACIATION PROBLEM; NO VAPOR NEEDED; ETC?
_HCS & GALACTIC EM WAVES TO NOVAS & CATACLYSMS
_SURPRISE WITNESS +AXIS TILTED +Reviewing a Possible World-wide Event c. 2400 BC
_NORTH AMERICA AS TURTLE ISLAND LEAVING PANGAEA? NO +CLOSEUP VIEW OF THE SPLIT +TURTLE ISLAND MYTHS +MEANING +Maya Cosmos: A Saturnian Interpretation
_MAYBE MYTHS OF WORLD AGES CAN HELP DATE ANCIENT CATACLYSMS +VELIKOVSKY'S DISCUSSION OF WORLD AGES +SUNS = AGES +DARKNESS DURING CATACLYSMS +BATTLE IN THE SKY +MAYBE DIFFERENT GODS/PLANETS DURING DIFFERENT AGES +AGES AS METALS - GOLDEN AGE FIRST +AGES AS METALS AGAIN FOLLOWED BY A NEW AGE
_NEW OUTLINE COMMENTS: THE NEW OUTLINE; The DARK AGE; GREAT FLOOD EVENT; The GOLDEN AGE; PANGAEA BREAKUP EVENT; The ICE AGE (or SILVER AGE?); YOUNGER DRYAS EVENT; The BRONZE AGE; The IRON AGE
_POLE SHIFTS & POLAR COLUMN; SATURNLIGHT & SUNLIGHT
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_KEN MOSS ON MAYA COSMOS & SATURN CONFIGURATION
_THERE WAS A THEORY THAT THE CHICXULUB CRATER IS THE REMNANT OF A SUPERVOLCANO ERUPTION: COLUMNAR SANDSTONE STRUCTURES ARE SAID TO BE VOLCANIC FEATURES, BUT I DON'T FIND THEM ASSOCIATED WITH CHICXULUB SO FAR; COLUMNAR ROCK IS VISIBLE AT THE MISTASTIN IMPACT SITE IN CANADA, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SANDSTONE OR BASALT....; SOME THOUGHT DECCAN VOLCANISM IN INDIA KILLED THE DINOSAURS; BUT THEN THE CHICXULUB IMPACT WAS THOUGHT TO HAVE CAUSED THE DECCAN VOLCANISM; 2017 CREATIONIST ARTICLE UNDERMINES THE IMPACT THEORY; A TSUNAMI CAME FROM CHICXULUB, BUT WAS IT FROM AN IMPACT OR A SUPERVOLCANO ERUPTION?; PANGAEA BREAKUP EVIDENCE: THE BREAKUP OBSCURED THE IMPACT?
_PAST POLE SHIFTS AS EVIDENCED BY SUNDIALS, WATER CLOCKS ETC; FORMER POLAR CONSTELLATION GREAT BEAR - LONGEST DAY 3X SHORTEST DAY; STAR TABLES & WATER CLOCKS; BABYLON & EGYPT - PRECESSION JUMPS; PYRAMIDS LATITUDE UNCHANGED; THE MOON IS ORBITING NEAR ECLIPTIC INSTEAD OF OVER EARTH'S EQUATOR; MAGNETISM OF POTTERY ETC
_700 BC CATACLYSM: SENNACHERIB'S ARMY WAS DESTROYED OVERNIGHT; 2.5 MILLION TROOPS?; POLE SHIFT OR WOBBLE, LIGHTNING, CONFLAGRATION; MORE ON LIGHTNING; MEGALIGHTNING KILLED HIS ARMY; LIGHTNING BURNED THEIR FLESH, NOT THEIR CLOTHES; EARLIER DEAD SEA EVENT ALSO INVOLVED MEGALIGHTNING; 701 BC METEOR BOMBARDMENT; 700 BC CATACLYSMS OF IRELAND ETC; POSSIBLE SIMULTANEOUS EVENT IN INDIA
_DAVE TALBOTT'S INTERVIEW; ONE OR TWO GREAT FLOODS; ARK PROVES ADVANCED CIVILIZATION BEFORE THE SECOND FLOOD (Later disproven)
_TRANSCRIPT OF A NOAH'S FLOOD VIDEO
_SAUK VOLCANISM MYSTERY; IMPACT BASINS; VOLCANIC ASH ALSO KILLED DINOSAURS?; PANGAEA BREAKUP DURING GREAT FLOOD?
_SAUK VOLCANISM MYSTERY POSSIBLE SOLUTION; [CREATIONISTS SAY ONE GREAT FLOOD]; [BIBLE IDEAS {more plausible}]; [WERE DINOSAUR EGGS LAID & HATCHED DURING THE FLOOD?]; DINOSAUR PENINSULA DROWNED EARLY
_1. SOME RADIOHALO EVIDENCE FOR CATASTROPHISM; 2. RADIOHALOS NOT IN BASEMENT ROCK; 3. See also: “Polonium Halos” Refuted
_RADIOHALOS WERE FROM RADON 222, BISMUTH 210 & POLONIUM 210; COMMENT. (FLATTENED HALOS)
_GREAT FLOOD MUD, SAND & FOSSILS
_DID MID CONTINENT RIFT FORM BEFORE THE GREAT FLOOD?: MCR = MID CONTINENT RIFT = MID NORTH AMERICAN RIFT; IS THE MCR PRE-FLOOD?; [MEGASEQUENCES]; [MIDCONTINENT RIFT FIRST MEGASEQUENCE?]; OROGENY STOPPED THE RIFT?; RIFT DESCRIPTION - NO FOSSILS; METAMORPHISM DESTROYS FOSSILS; RIFT CROSS SECTION RESEMBLES BASIN CROSS SECTIONS; GREAT LAKES REGION GEOLOGY: GREAT FLOOD, IMPACTS, RIFT, GLACIATION; NEARBY BASINS; CHRONOLOGY
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_NEWSLETTER
_NOAH'S ARK FRAUD
_MYTHIC CLUES TO CATASTROPHIST CHRONOLOGY: TALBOTT; CARDONA
_BIRTH OF VENUS
_BIRTH OF VENUS & MARS: COMMENT: ASTROLOGY
_BIBLIOGRAPHY
_CATACLYSMIC HISTORY TOPICS PLAN
_FORMATION OF SUPERCONTINENT?: CRATONS FORMED FROM IMPACTS; [IMPACTS THIN THE CRUST]; [BASINS CAN RISE OR SINK]; [CRATON BASINS FILLED WITH FLOOD SEDIMENT]
_EV COCHRANE's POTENTIAL DATING OF THE SATURN CONFIGURATION
_MOST GEOLOGICAL DATING METHODS ARE GROSSLY INACCURATE; RADIOACTIVE DECAY GREATLY SPEEDS UP UNDER HIGH IONIZATION
_EARTH'S RADIOACTIVITY FROM ASTEROID THAT MADE PANGAEA: CONTINENTS ARE MORE RADIOACTIVE; CONTINENTAL SLIDING DID NOT INCREASE RADIOACTIVITY; DOUBLED CRUST IS MOST RADIOACTIVE; HIGH ANCS ASTEROID FORMED SUPERCONTINENT PANGAEA; TEST FOR MOON'S ORIGIN; EARTH WAS NEVER MOLTEN; CONTINENTAL CRUST HAS TWO LAYERS, THE UPPER CRUST IS MORE RADIOACTIVE; MOST RADIOACTIVITY IN GRANITE, SHALE, PHOSPHATE, COAL; GIANT METEORITE IMPACTS FORMED SUPERCONTINENT; LATER IMPACTS BROKE UP THE SUPERCONTINENT
_SUBSTACK WORK ON THE GREAT FLOOD; MAIN UNCERTAINTY IN CATACLYSMIC HISTORY
_GREAT FLOOD PAPER OFF TO A GOOD START
_DINOSAUR STRATA: DINOSAURS TRACKS & FOSSILS ATOP FLOOD STRATA; PROOF OF RECENTNESS OF DINOSAURS; SOME EARLY CHRISTIANS THOUGHT CREATION TOOK 6,000 YEARS
_SEPTUAGINT FLOOD DATE BETTER THAN MASORETIC: THREAD REVIEW OF SEPTUAGINT; CONCLUSION: MASORETIC DID NOT DATE A SECOND FLOOD -- FLOOD 3300 BC; MORE GREAT FLOOD VIDEOS PARAPHRASED: [ASTEROID IMPACTS TO ENORMOUS EARTHQUAKES TO SEISMITE]; [FAST FLOODWATERS DEPOSITED CROSSBEDS & MOUNTAINS ROSE UP]; [FLOATING LYCOPOD FORESTS]; [CONTINENT-WIDE LYCOPOD FOREST DETRITUS WITH VOLCANIC ASH FORMED COAL]; POSTFLOOD & DNA; CONCLUSION: MOUNTAINS ROSE UP DURING THE GREAT FLOOD
_Brigit on Septuagint
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_Septuagint
_SEPTUAGINT COMMENTS?; PANGAEA vs. Thornhill
_GOOD NEW CATASTROPHIST VIDEO CHANNEL: ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY BEFORE THE GREAT FLOOD; Comments on New Channel's Videos
_Brigit on Septuagint: 167 for Methuselah in certain manuscripts of the LXX is a scribal error
_JP agrees that LXX is best
_SEPTUAGINT ACCEPTANCE; ADVANCED TECH BEFORE THE FLOOD?
_JP: significant cataclysmic events post-Flood (the Bible mentions
_OBJECTS IN COAL IN MEGASEQUENCES, FLOOD, EDM; SATURN/JUPITER SYSTEM PATH TO SOLAR SYSTEM; FLOOD STARTED WITH HUGE LANDSLIDES ON CONTINENTAL EDGES; POSSIBLE CONTRADICTION
_Brigit: Earth probably suffered the massive ocean basin carving as a feature of its birth
_JackOkie: geochemical analysis of the relative cratons ... were ... parts of the same rock before the archaic "supercontinent" broke apart [ link ]
_Brigit: [Quoting a paper:] Four areas previously considered as separate cratons ... are interpreted as part of the same ... Craton....
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_ATLANTIC OCEAN BASIN FORMATION
_Brigit: continents and ocean basins were the original structures ... when [earth] formed by a powerful electrical z-pinch
_NOTES ON 2 MORE GREAT FLOOD VIDEOS: UNUSUAL ROCK STRATA; WATER CURRENT DIRECTIONS BEFORE, DURING & AFTER THE GREAT FLOOD - HUGE LUNAR TIDE; LAMINATED VS BIOTURBATED STRATA; STRATA SEQUENCES; POWER OF FLOOD SHEET EROSION; UNUSUAL STRATA FORMED BY MICRO-ORGANISMS; NAUTILOIDS IN UNDERWATER LANDSLIDE; SANDWAVES & PHOSPHATES; ANIMALS ON NOAH'S ARK MAY HAVE HIBERNATED; CONTINENTAL DRIFT, IRIDIUM, DIPPING STRATA, OROGENESIS; HUMAN & DINOSAUR FOSSILS TOGETHER
_OCEAN BASINS FORMED FROM Z-PINCH OR CONTINENTAL DRIFT
_Brigit: Thornhill video link on Atlantic EDM
_EDM FORMATION OF CONTINENTS & OCEAN BASINS
_LAST NOTES FROM NOAH'S FLOOD VIDEO IN 2 PARTS: [TEJAS, BIOTURBATION & FOSSIL TRACKS]; [TIAHAUANCO BUILT AFTER THE GREAT FLOOD]; [DROP STONES OF NOAH'S ARK]; [MISSING PLANT FOSSILS; HUMAN HAPLOGROUPS]; [BETTER DNA, LONG LIFE, GOLDEN AGE, GENEALOGIES]
_Brigit: Threads on Atlanic formation
_ANCIENT ADVANCED CIVILIZATION: [NOAH'S ARK WAS ADVANCED TECH]; [BABEL DISPERSAL DUE TO CATASTROPHE]; [CAVE MEN WERE ADVANCED TOO]; [POST-FLOOD PEOPLE INHERITED PRE-FLOOD KNOWLEDGE]; Tihuanaco on Sedimentary Rock
_AGE LIMITS OF EARTH'S & MARS' ATMOSPHERES ETC; ALSO BELOW EVIDENCE OF WHEN MASORETIC BIBLE WAS CORRUPTED; EVIDENCE OF WHEN MASORETIC BIBLE WAS CORRUPTED
_MARS AGE LIMITS: {VELIKOVSKY ON MARS & VENUS ENCOUNTERS}; {MARS' MOONS: PHOBOS & DEIMOS THRASHINGS}; {HOW MARS' METEORITES GOT ON EARTH}; {VENUS' TIDAL PULL ON MARS}; {THARSIS RECENT BULGE}
_MARS AGE LIMITS (Part 2): {MARS DUST IS RECENT}; {MARS VOLCANOES ARE RECENT}; {HUGE HELLAS CRATER BASIN IS RECENT}; {RECENT MARS RIVER BEDS}; {PEDESTAL CRATERS ARE RECENT}; {MARS TORNADOES}; {YOUNG MARS ROCKS}; {POLAR ICE CAPS: HUGE AMOUNT OF WATER ON MARS}; {YOUNG ATMOSPHERE}
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_VELIKOVSKY'S QUOTES ON DATING CATACLYSM: [ARCTIC MUCK & MAMMOTHS]; [FOSSILS IN] THE CAVES OF ENGLAND; [WHALES IN MICHIGAN]; [HIMILAYAN GLACIATION]; [MEGALITHIC CITY IN THE ANDES]; [NORTHWEST VOLCANISM]; [MAGNETIC REVERSAL]; [PATAGONIAN VOLCANISM]; [METEORITES]; [SWEDISH GLACIERS]; [WISCONSIN GLACIATION]; [CANADIAN STRIATIONS]; [NIAGARA FALLS]; [MISSISSIPPI RIVER]; [FLORIDA FOSSILS]; [TREE RINGS]; [SEA LEVEL CHANGE]; [THERA VOLCANO ERUPTION]; [CHANGE IN NILE FLOW]; [ALPS GLACIER]; [FLORIDA FOSSILS]; [SOUTHWEST ancient LAKE & TAR PITS]; [RECAP]; [LABRADOR CRATER]; [ASTEROIDS & COMETS]
_MEGATSUNAMIS: 1.5 Mile High Tidal Surges during the Great Flood
_MOON IN UPHEAVAL
_EVIDENCE OF ANCIENT UPHEAVAL OF THE MOON: LUNAR TIDAL DISTORTION; VELIKOVSKY'S VIEW; FIRSOFF'S SOMEWHAT SIMILAR VIEW; TIDAL DISTORTION BRECCIA; TIDAL MASCONS; LUNAR BULGE & MOONQUAKES AT MARIA; LUNAR HEAT; THE ORIGIN AND NATURE OF LUNAR CRATERS; LINEAMENTS; SIMILARITY TO IO CRATERS; TIDAL DISTORTION VS IMPACTS; BUBBLING VULCANISM; GASES; WATER VAPOR; DOMES; RHEOLOGY; THE LUNAR REGOLITH; LAYERING, NOT FROM IMPACTS; MICROCRATERS; THERMOLUMINESCENCE; METEORIC DUST; RADIOACTIVITY; MAGNETISM: SOMETHING MAGNETIZED THE MOON
_RATIONALE FOR FORMER MEGALITHIC STRUCTURES: What Were Ancient Builders Fortifying Against?
_INTERESTING LINKS I'VE SEEN RECENTLY
_CHAPTER 6 OF MY ONLINE BOOK "Cataclysmic Earth History": MEGASEQUENCES: Deposited in Great Flood Tidal Pulses
_EARTH'S FORMER WEAK GRAVITY: ELECTRICAL REPULSION; TORNADIC LEVITATION; PLANETARY TIDAL OR ELECTRICAL ATTRACTION
_MORE ON EARTH'S FORMER WEAKER GRAVITY: ELECTRICAL FORCES WEAKENED EARTH'S GRAVITY; Titius-Bode Law
_VIDEO ON THE ICE AGE TRANSCRIBED: The Great Ice Age; ICE AGE FACTS; ERRATICS; UNGLACIATED ARCTIC; FORMERLY GREEN DESERTS; SOME MAMMOTH MYSTERIES; MOST ICE AGES WERE FLOOD LANDSLIDES; ICE AGE REQUIREMENTS; SOURCE AND EXTENT OF THE ICE; ONLY ONE ICE AGE; WARM-LOVING ANIMALS IN THE ICE AGE; ICE AGE LAKES; LOW SEA LEVEL; MIGRATIONS; LETHAL COLD DUST STORMS; ICE SHEET MELTED AFTER 700 YEARS; PANGAEA BREAKUP; REMAINING QUESTIONS
_MECHANISM OF THE SATURN THEORY: MILES MATHIS' VS ELECTRIC MODEL OF STAR/PLANET FORMATION; ELECTRIC CHARGE THEORY; STAR FORMING FILAMENTS; SOLAR SYSTEM FILAMENT; ORBIT CIRCULARIZATION